I re-read the thread carefully and yes Terry there are two Sarfatti 's commenting on the Haisch theory. Jack is undecided but David feels it is impossible.
I remain undecided about the Haisch Moddel method of extracting the energy but must point out that Bernard isn't describing his method of extracting energy - the analogy in question only demonstrates that energy is present if we know how to take it. As Jones says regarding David's statement "This is correct, as far as it goes. The Haisch patent probably will not work for gain for this reason, without more." the Casimir Lamb Pinch is the (more) method they propose to extract this energy with and was not addressed by David. Personally I feel you need BIASED chemical reactions between these different levels of suppression to accumulate energy from the translation in one direction but not in the opposite direction where one direction being diatomic and the opposite direction being monatomic. I think this is the interim force that leads to condensed matter and eventually nuclear reactions. Regards Fran

