Horace: I hope I didn't delete it... In order to not confuse people, if I'm really only responding to a sentence or two out of a lengthy posting, I will delete much of the extraneous material.. and I will try to remember to include 'snip' or 'deleted' to alert readers to that fact.... I did this in my reply to jones and you: > Do you have a citation for that? I wasn't aware of this detail. > [snip] > Jones
-Mark _____ From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:EETIMES publishes report It is disconcerting that I have not seen the post from Jones Beene which has been quoted by Mark Iverson below. Something is gumming up the works! And what's with "Symantec" deleting messages? The audit trail on this subject seems to disappear as quickly as it appears. I got my info directly off the Sandia site, and it indicated a 1.30 COP for a helium shot, IRC. I have repeatedly seen announcements on their site which later disappear, such as their schedule for producing p-B fusion. Horace On Jan 24, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Hi Jones, Horace, We have a Z-pinch device housed here at the Nevada Terawatt Facility, a part of the University's physics dept... it took three railroad flatcars to get it here from Sandia or Los Alamos. A close friend, an electrical engineer, was a part of the technical team at this facility, and he has also related to me that on more than one occasion, the 'firing' of the Z-pinch machine has resulted in anomalous energy that could not be explained, and instruments all seemed to be working properly... don't think they ever tracked it down since they have deadlines and budgets as well. -Mark _____ From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:EETIMES publishes report Very interesting comments Horace, especially: "A clue to the truth of this, and to the fact that uncertainty energy is extractable, is the fact Sandia surprisingly obtained over-unity shots when using helium to test the Z-machine." Do you have a citation for that? I wasn't aware of this detail. [snip] Jones From: Horace Heffner The Casimir effect is significant in the binding potential of the deflated state, and thus in elongating the duration of the state pre-fusion, though the net energy imparted by the Casimir effect is zero, by symmetry. A nuclear Casimir effect is also extremely significant in binding hadrons together in a nucleus. Yes, the Casimir effect is not a major player in creating (nuclear) heat, but uncertainty energy due to the ZPF is. See: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/NuclearZPEtapping.pdf A clue to the truth of this, and to the fact that uncertainty energy is extractable, is the fact Sandia surprisingly obtained over-unity shots when using helium to test the Z-machine. Even if Rossi and BLP and all the other cold fusion efforts, and hot fusion efforts like ITER, turn out to not be commercially viable, I think Sandia's ambitious z-pinch program will produce a viable energy technology, and within a few years. For general info see: http://www.sandia.gov/z-machine/ I think it is wise to not over commit to the Rossi technology being both real and useful until an actual MW producing plant is built and functioning long term. If this is a hoax it will of course set cold fusion research financing back years, and the pie will be in our faces. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
