Well - not so fast. How can you assume LENR?

 

Most of us here "want to believe" it is LENR, but where is the evidence of
anything nuclear? Are you saying that excess heat over and above chemical
makes it LENR by default?

 

Maybe - It is clearly "new physics" but the lack of radioactivity at the
demo (Levi paper) makes it less likely to be nuclear.

 

This leaves three or four basic categories of non-nuclear or crossover
reactions, as options: 

1)    QM based "near nuclear tunneling" but w/o nuclear alteration

2)    Mills, or fractional ground states

3)    Langmuir/Moller atomic hydrogen (active Casimir heating)

4)    ZPE (other variations of the above) including Heffner's "nuclear ZPE"

5)    MIMS - or "metastable inner-shell molecular states". This is really
another name for "ballotechnics" aka "supra-chemistry" since it deals with
inner orbitals.

6)    Any combination or permutation, including ZPE reactions which
eventually accelerate nuclear decay to stable isotopes

 

. there is plenty of overlap in this list - and most of these have been
considered to be in the fold of LENR in the past, by default, but clearly
the inventor has said over and over that this is not related to "cold
fusion" . but also that he doesn't understand it.

 

.and in any event, there is too little real data is available to contradict
Rossi's own appraisal that it is not cold fusion. IOW it could be a
completely new reaction, the 'black swan' or 'Goodyear moment' which was not
a predictable outcome from the P&F experiment.

 

Jones

 

From: Peter Gluck 

 

Interesting idea, but the Rossi cell was predictable.

 

Globally we ( a rather small group) knew that LENR is possible in principle
but very difficult to achieve in practice- at a technologically valuable
level. 

 

Peter

 

Jones Beene wrote:

The 'Black Swan Theory' of human development was developed by Nassim
Nicholas Taleb to better explain the role of "freaky" randomness in history
and science. Not just 'improbability' but utter unpredictability on one
level, yet with the kind of hidden influences that makes it stochastic
instead of pure randomness. 

 

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