On Feb 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Jones Beene wrote:

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> If my understanding is correct, then I don't see how this would make it more

effective in nucleating condensation of protons, because the "extra" mass is not

collocated with the original electron, so it's not as though it's actually a

heavy electron that can by analogy substitute for a negative muon.


It is true that the verbalization is misleading, based on underlying assumptions. The same is true for "deflated".



I think the description of "deflated", in the deflation fusion theory sense, is only misleading to you because you have not read the papers and references therein, at least not with any understanding. This admittedly may be the result of my bad writing style. However, in the case of most people I think they simply have not made any effort to understand the theory, because they dismiss it a priori.



A term that has also been used is "heavy quasiparticle" or "heavy fermion." Even the "heavy" part is unclear. Heavy compared to what?


Heavy compared to its rest mass.

There is also some relevance to Ken Shoulder's EVO concept, in that there is an appearance of what looks like "negatively charged space" which is not as mutually repulsive as real electrons would be. Could the EVO be the corresponding condition that exists in a vacuum, where no protons are available? The "gluball" is another term which seems strangely applicable.


This is a different thing altogether. Two superimposed electrons with opposed spins represent a boson. Any number of them can theoretically be superpositioned. However, the binding energy for such bosons is very very small, so the smallest thermal energy perterbation results in loss of binding energy and explosion of the complex. The mystery to me is why the half life of such a complex could reach an observable amount. The extreme mass N*e in this case is simply due to multiple (N) superimposed electrons, not due to the interaction of an electron with those in a lattice nearby.


At any rate, in describing IRH or hydrogen clusters, there is an emerging picture of a real phenomenon where lots of protons appears to be nucleated and bonded by "something" similar to electrons but exotic in other ways …

Jones


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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