It worth noting that nickel and copper are often found together in mineral 
deposits.

Harry

>
>From: Harry Veeder <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 5:08:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nickel and Copper
>
>
>oh it is not surprising that they are claiming copper is produced, since even 
>on 
>the standard peoridic table nickel and copper are neighbors.
>
>Stellar fusion can account for the lighter elements up to and including iron, 
>but how the heavier elements arose is not so clear. Indeed, most of the 
>heavier 
>elements might be produced by cold fusion
>processes.
>
>Cold fusion may be occurring all around us and in us.
>
>
>Harry
>
>>
>>From: Esa Ruoho <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 2:52:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nickel and Copper
>>
>>This question made me check out Walter Russell's  Periodic Chart of the 
>>Elements,  and in there, Nickel and Copper are right next to eachother  in 
>>the 
>>7th octave, listed as isotopes. On top of Nickel there's Cobalt, and below 
>>Copper there's Zinc, Gallium and Germanium.
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/esaruoho/2357267257/sizes/o/in/photostream/
>>
>>So I guess I shouldn't be surprised that someone would be muck around with 
>>Nickel and end up with Copper.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Harry Veeder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>Has it ever be explained, using stellar nucleosynthesis theory, why naturally 
>>occurring nickel and copper have the isotopic distribution that they have? 
>>>Harry
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]>
>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 10:33:19 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Swedish physicists on the E-cat: "It's a nuclear 
>>>>reaction" / The used powder contains ten percent copper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 04/06/2011 10:23 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: 
>>>>Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The mundane reason for the appearance of iron an copper is 
electromigration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Where are the electric fields that would cause electromigration? There are 
>>>>no 
>>>>fields in copper pipes as far as I know.
>>>>
>>>>Kullander does say ". . . it’s remarkable that nickel-58 and hydrogen can 
>>>>form 
>>>>copper-63 (70%) and copper-65 (30%)."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess that means they measured the isotopes.
>>>He *said* they measured the isotopes.
>>>
>>>He said, specifically, the ratios for both nickel and copper didn't vary 
>>>from 
>>>natural abundances:  "The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS doesn’t show any 
>>>deviation from the natural isotopic composition of nickel and copper."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>They used XRFS and ICP-MS. XRFS measures only elements as I recall, whereas 
>>>ICP-MS detects isotopes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It would be a little odd if the reaction produced copper with a natural 
>>>>isotopic 
>>>>distribution.
>>That's a marvelous understatement!  And don't forget that the nickel wasn't 
>>differentially depleted, either -- its ratios were natural, as well.
>>
>>It's more likely that Levi is in on the gag than that transmutation from 
>>nickel 
>>to copper produced "natural" isotope ratios in the ash.  The former merely 
>>requires the assumption that a few humans are acting unusually stupid (which 
>>happens frequently).  The latter requires something close to a miracle (and 
>>miracles are very rare).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>- Jed
>>>
>>>
>>

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