On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

Once again: chemistry is fully conservative.

We must always preface these remarks with that. Valence electron manipulation can provide no long term gain via reversible chemistry… but … catch-22, a hybrid process can provide gain at the expense of the zero point field IF (big if) you provide any way (even an inadvertent way) to replenish the local zero point field via a non-chemical process.

I don't think you need to "replenish" the zero point field. The zero point field is for all practical purposes infinitely energy dense, but only large in effect at nuclear size or less. The zero point field does actually play a measurable (chemical) role in hydrogen in metals, by affecting tunneling rates, but only at near zero kelvin temperatures.

Redundant ground states may be one of the non-chemical ways to do it – and others ways, which involve the nucleus or quark manipulation - are definitely in that category.

Is there an echo in here?


Jones


Jones, it's good to hear someone talk that way! Did you finally read my paper? As applied to heavy element LENR, the above is an important aspect of my deflation fusion theory, that some of the enthalpy that results, especially from weak force reactions, which immediately follow the strong force reactions, is from the zero point field. The pre-fusion state, the deflated state, is not just redundant, but a degenerate state, one having the same sum of kinetic plus potential energy as the hydrogen in its normal environment.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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