Jones Beene wrote:
There is no helium here, no tritium and no radioactivity, and NO non-natural
isotopic distribution, so how could it be nuclear?
How do you know there is no helium, tritium or radioactivity here? They
have hardly begun to look. Helium in particular is very difficult to
detect. As Robin van Spaandonk pointed out, we might expect helium-3
instead of helium from this system. No one has looked for that, either,
as far as I know.
That actually might be a useful product.
Of course it might be a Mills effect, but as far as I know, no one has
looked for evidence of that, either. It is not clear to me how you look
for a Mills effect, but I believe Rossi and Levi et al. know nothing
about the Mills theory, so they are not taking any steps to confirm it.
I think we should stop drawing conclusions and making categorical
statements about evidence that has not been collected yet, and tests
that no one has done yet. There is a little evidence about copper. Very
confusing, with some claims of natural isotopes, some of unnatural, and
claims that copper migrates through stainless steel while the nickel
migrates out. This all needs to be sorted out by careful, replicated
experiments before any of it can be believed -- or dismissed. If it
turns out the effect really does produce copper with natural isotopes,
then we can start speculating about that after it is firmly established.
And if that is a fact, it will remain fact despite any and all theories
that say it cannot happen. Theory is a guide to what may be found, but
it can never be used to deny what is found.
- Jed