Jones Beene wrote:

There is no helium here, no tritium and no radioactivity, and NO non-natural 
isotopic distribution, so how could it be nuclear?

How do you know there is no helium, tritium or radioactivity here? They have hardly begun to look. Helium in particular is very difficult to detect. As Robin van Spaandonk pointed out, we might expect helium-3 instead of helium from this system. No one has looked for that, either, as far as I know.

That actually might be a useful product.

Of course it might be a Mills effect, but as far as I know, no one has looked for evidence of that, either. It is not clear to me how you look for a Mills effect, but I believe Rossi and Levi et al. know nothing about the Mills theory, so they are not taking any steps to confirm it.

I think we should stop drawing conclusions and making categorical statements about evidence that has not been collected yet, and tests that no one has done yet. There is a little evidence about copper. Very confusing, with some claims of natural isotopes, some of unnatural, and claims that copper migrates through stainless steel while the nickel migrates out. This all needs to be sorted out by careful, replicated experiments before any of it can be believed -- or dismissed. If it turns out the effect really does produce copper with natural isotopes, then we can start speculating about that after it is firmly established. And if that is a fact, it will remain fact despite any and all theories that say it cannot happen. Theory is a guide to what may be found, but it can never be used to deny what is found.

- Jed

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