I think the distinction involves the fermion-boson nature of the negative
hydrogen ion between deuterium and protium.



Because protium can form a clustered negative hydrogen ion as a fermion, the
ion can mimic the behavior of the electron.



Since deuterium can only form a negative hydrogen ion with integer spin, it
is denied the same mechanism that allows fusion of large volumes of protium
atoms. It is the size of these ion clusters that make the “Rossi” reaction
so powerful and productive.



And palladium cannot produce clustered negative hydrogen ions so the
reaction is very weak.





The Bose-Einstein condensate is the most probable mechanism for deuterium
cold fusion.



But the hydride compression mechanism is the most likely common cold fusion
factor between the two isotopes in a transition metal.





The detection of helium in the Arata experiment shows that fusion of
deuterium is happening.







On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you- but pycno-hydrogen was used only for  comparison with
> pycno-deuterium and never works (no fusion).
> By the way, what is your impression about the many
> Arata style experiments? How reliable are they as intensity,
> reproducibility etc. ?
> I think a positive nanoeffect is fighting with the inadequate electronic
> structure of palladium- summa summarum usability remains low. Plus in many
> cases the degassing
> of the active nanosurfaces is insufficient.
> Your opinion?
> Peter
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I provided the link to the experiment at the top of the first post. All
>> the info is there.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Axil
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Probably I don't remember well- but has Arata worked with hydrogen  too-
>>> not only deuterium?
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The experiments of Yoshiaki Arata and Yue Chang Zhang show that there
>>>> is nothing important provided by the enrichment of the nickel isotope Ni62
>>>> to the H- reaction.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ArataYdevelopmena.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The experiments of Yoshiaki Arata and Yue Chang Zhang, Piantelli, and
>>>>> Rossi all confirm the nuclear nature of negative hydrogen ion (H-) 
>>>>> reactions
>>>>> in transitions metals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a common thread here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For example in the experiment of Arata, platinum provides the spill
>>>>> over generation of H- into both zirconium oxide and nickel oxide.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fisrt the long  incubation period first provides atomic holes in the
>>>>> transition metal lattice through the action of hydrogen erosion. Next, H- 
>>>>> is
>>>>> loaded into these holes in the transition metal under the spill over 
>>>>> effect
>>>>> provided by Pd.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, a shock starts the nuclear reorganization.  A chain reaction
>>>>> catalyzed and spread by  the reactions own heat completes the process.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * *
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>> Cluj, Romania
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>

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