Yes, dear Axil- Piantelli has also emphasized this aspect.

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think the distinction involves the fermion-boson nature of the negative
> hydrogen ion between deuterium and protium.
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> Because protium can form a clustered negative hydrogen ion as a fermion,
> the ion can mimic the behavior of the electron.
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> Since deuterium can only form a negative hydrogen ion with integer spin, it
> is denied the same mechanism that allows fusion of large volumes of protium
> atoms. It is the size of these ion clusters that make the “Rossi” reaction
> so powerful and productive.
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> And palladium cannot produce clustered negative hydrogen ions so the
> reaction is very weak.
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> The Bose-Einstein condensate is the most probable mechanism for deuterium
> cold fusion.
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> But the hydride compression mechanism is the most likely common cold fusion
> factor between the two isotopes in a transition metal.
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> The detection of helium in the Arata experiment shows that fusion of
> deuterium is happening.
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> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thank you- but pycno-hydrogen was used only for  comparison with
>> pycno-deuterium and never works (no fusion).
>> By the way, what is your impression about the many
>> Arata style experiments? How reliable are they as intensity,
>> reproducibility etc. ?
>> I think a positive nanoeffect is fighting with the inadequate electronic
>> structure of palladium- summa summarum usability remains low. Plus in many
>> cases the degassing
>> of the active nanosurfaces is insufficient.
>> Your opinion?
>> Peter
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>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I provided the link to the experiment at the top of the first post. All
>>> the info is there.
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>>> Kind Regards
>>>
>>> Axil
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably I don't remember well- but has Arata worked with hydrogen  too-
>>>> not only deuterium?
>>>> Peter
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>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> The experiments of Yoshiaki Arata and Yue Chang Zhang show that there
>>>>> is nothing important provided by the enrichment of the nickel isotope Ni62
>>>>> to the H- reaction.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ArataYdevelopmena.pdf
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> The experiments of Yoshiaki Arata and Yue Chang Zhang, Piantelli, and
>>>>>> Rossi all confirm the nuclear nature of negative hydrogen ion (H-) 
>>>>>> reactions
>>>>>> in transitions metals.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a common thread here.
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>>>>>> For example in the experiment of Arata, platinum provides the spill
>>>>>> over generation of H- into both zirconium oxide and nickel oxide.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Fisrt the long  incubation period first provides atomic holes in the
>>>>>> transition metal lattice through the action of hydrogen erosion. Next, 
>>>>>> H- is
>>>>>> loaded into these holes in the transition metal under the spill over 
>>>>>> effect
>>>>>> provided by Pd.
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>>>>>> Finally, a shock starts the nuclear reorganization.  A chain reaction
>>>>>> catalyzed and spread by  the reactions own heat completes the process.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> * *
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>>> Cluj, Romania
>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>>
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>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
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-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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