Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances 
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--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Mark Iverson <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Mark Iverson <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 8:34 PM



 
 
 
John:
 
Let me ask a few questions so I can better understand what 
you're proposing...
 
What is your interpretation of the magnetic moment 
present in all elementary particles 
where electrical currents don't even 
come into play?
 
Of course atoms can be affected by a magnetic field... 
this is the basis upon which NMR works!!!
 

There is no electrical current in a permanent magnet, yet, 
they generate a magnetic field..
Found a spot here to make comment. A permanent magnet probably has by theory 
cohered axis of unpaired electron spins in one direction. Similarly the 
ferromagnetic field pole faces of a car alternator will have a collection of 
random directions of unpaired electron spins,(it is not magnetized); but during 
the process of macroscopic spin some of those random  electron spins in 3D 
space will be tilted by application of gyroscopic principles, with the net 
result that many spins in one orientation will occur and the ferromagnetic 
material appears to be magnetized to a weaker degree then what can ordinarily 
achieved when the associated field windings are employed to make the second 
primary influence of obtaining a rotating electromagnet as the primary input of 
an alternator. In the following video a neon requiring over 500 volts for 
ignition is obtained from rotation of an unmagnetized field.
http://youtu.be/FAc3jQziicc
Video Records from 10/21/10;  Again unbeknowst to me, at this point in 
time I was unaware that the 9 coil system providing 3 phases of resonant
 voltage rise, was in fact mistuned. I only discovered this later when 
attempting to film the reactance test. It is in this mistuned state that
 apparently because of the mutual induction wiring inherent in the 666 
configuration, one of the three interphasal voltages will be literally 
in excess of 180 degrees phase angle difference in time, whereby the 
resultant voltage is greater then the summation of its component 
voltages which is certainly a paradox.  Because of this imbalance, two 
of the phases will gain more resonant voltage rise seemingly at the 
expense of the remaining phase 2. Irregardless of the fact that the 
system is mistuned, these four videos investigate the addition of not 
only three high induction coil resonances to the three interphasal 
voltage rises, but also a fourth one connected in a one wire manner from
 the third resonance. The sequence can be properly termed a magnifier 
principle as it can be demonstrated that the free vibration established 
on the fourth coil in the unloaded state is greater than the source of 
its vibrations. When the neon is added as a load between the third and 
fourth reaction vibrations, where the fourth vibration is presumably 
made both by the loose magnetic coupling with the dual adjacent 70 lb 
larger coil of 68.5 H; which in turn has its water capacity enclosed in 
the core volume of the 60.5 H coil using a plexiglass capacity for its 
resonance. It is this reaction vibration connected by one wire means 
that then in turn is reduced below the source of its vibrations after 
powering the neon load between them.  All of these effects are made from
 rotational magnetism alone where the field of the alternator is not yet
 enpowered.  In the video the water capacity value used for the third 
vibration on the 68.5 H coil is diminished by raising its central 
electrode out of the dielectric but paradoxically its resonance is not 
disabled. The sequence of coil placements as interphasal loadings is 
covered in further videos.

This video in itself seems to open a can of worms. I had noticed in the making 
of these alternator resonant circuits several peculiarities. For example 
identical values of measured capacity may be constructed, one a plexiglass flat 
plate capacity and the other the mentioned axial water capacity. Now when that 
required capacity is tested for resonance by adding a equally opposite 
inductive reactance,( the high induction coils) each C value gives different 
performance as q factor voltage rise. It was noticed that for induction ending 
circuits where the coil is used as an air core secondary that the flat plate 
capacity was inferior to the axial one, but if wafers of styrofoam were placed 
atop the capacity, this increased its performance. How can this be when that 
dielectric is not in the area between the plates? In the video Mr. Kitical is 
able to take the circuit out of resonance by sitting on the top plate of a 
plexiglass capacity, but when I go in there
 and start altering the C value by removing the rod of the cylindrical water 
capacity, no results are seen until the rod is entirely removed? Here are some  
repetitive component tests of this assembly of coils;
http://youtu.be/ho-SUqBTrpk
Video Records from 10/21/10: This video shows the fourth coil vibration 
used to show the flux capacitor principle being in excess of its source 
of vibration from the 3rd coil system that has its electric field's 
obtained from series resonance encased in the volume of the fourth extra
 coils magnetic field, where this MAGNIFICATION  of the vibration is 
shown once the neon load is removed. The sequence of adding the 
interphasal resonances is shown.
http://youtu.be/NvCbp4uOB3Q
  Single Phase Operation: Top coil is energized; remaining components removed 
and given shorted loops, making for two air core secondaries, where the third 
coil shares its induced currents with the fourth extra coil resonance, obtained 
by having its cylindrical capacity enclosed by the fourth coil itself that uses 
a flat plate capacity to resonate.
http://youtu.be/NJ5H8G7kDFA
Reconstruction of circuit to former state- shorted loops given line 
connections. Note the gain in extra fourth coil amperage,(thus voltage rise), 
when Mr. Kitical is removed from the plate capacity.
Sincerely Harvey D Norris, Video Records from 10/21/10

. and other things (ferrous metals and 
other magnets) definitely are affected (i.e., have a force exerted upon 
them) by that mag-field. So I guess I'm at a loss to see how you can say 
that there is no such thing as a real physical magnetic field -- that's its 
only 
an illusion.

-Mark

 
 


From: John Berry [mailto:[email protected]] 

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:50 PM
To: 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and 
magnetic fields perpendicular?


Ok, you need to consider my answer if you want to understand this.


You are assuming that a thing called a magnetic field really exists and 
this is the reason for your problem.


Consider first how to interact with or detect magnetic fields, first 
take the Neutron, what reaction does it have to a magnetic field?


As far as I am aware, essentially none.


Ok so what else is matter made up of, ok Protons and electrons, so how do 
these particles with electrical potential react to a magnetic field?


By default they don't!


Ok, so if you are moving the charges relatively to the magnetic 
field then what happens?  Well if cutting across the so called magnetic 
field they feel a force perpendicular to the magnetic field and in a direction 
based on their electrical sign.
So in an EM wave we have electrons and protons feel a force at right angles 
to the so called magnetic component, in other words they feel the electric 
component.


So what can be detected on the magnetic axis? NOTHING.


Of course a magnet will align it's self to the magnetic axis, but why is 
this?


Well if you consider an air core electromagnet turned off it shows no 
reaction to the magnetic field, now if you put DC through it, it will respond 
by 
aligning with the external magnetic field, however if we look at each element 
of 
this coil we find that the force is placed on moving electrons because they are 
cutting through the magnetic field, the force on the electrons is perpendicular 
to the magnetic field.


Ok, so an electromagnet feeling any "magnetic" force is really just an 
illusion.


And the same is true of ferrous materials where the magnetic field is again 
created by moving charges.


Ok, so how come magnetic fields exist only to establish an electric 
component at 90 degrees?


Well consider what makes magnetic fields is: moving charges, and what feels 
magnetic fields is: moving charges.
And what they feel is perpendicular and dependent on the sign of 
the moving charge.


So if we look at moving charges, can we understand how these forces can 
arise?


Actually YES!


If you look at every source of a magnetic field you can calculate the 
expected force by looking solely at how motion is distorting the 
electric field.


Ok, so in a piece of wire the protons and electrons are in about the same 
number and their electric fields sum to zero outside the wire (the electric 
field from every particle in your body stretches out to infinity), 
then if you apply a time varying electric field to the wire the mobile 
electrons 
wiggle back and fourth.
This movement effects their field in much the same way that wiggling a hose 
makes the stream bend.


The protons aren't wiggling so you can now look at what would happen from 
having electric fields from the electrons in a wire bent as it carries out into 
space:  /\/\/\/\/\/\/\|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 
This clearly shows how the electric component comes about.


Ok, so how about a DC electromagnet with an air core?


Well what happens when matter moves? Well since Einstein and 
before the answer is that contraction of length takes place.
So if we have a wire and move the electrons but not the protons, what 
should happen to the electrons field?
It should be squashed, so consider the spherical field around an electron, 
imagine now lots of electrons in a row like peals on a necklace, look at the 
vectors of force from that electric field.


Look at how any field lines not perpendicular to this train of 
electrons is cancelled by the other electrons fields, now if you were to 
pancake 
these electric fields a bit less field at the sides would be wasted and 
cancelled between them, and more in the perpendicular direction.


I hope you are able to visualize this, this would create an unmasked 
electric field of sorts, this electric field also should exist and has been 
experimentally measured to exist as the Hooper Motional E field and it should 
exist even if you look on magnetic fields as real.


Now I can hear you asking how this creates any illusion of a magnetic 
field, well let's now look at another parallel section of wire carrying a 
current, now there are different ways to view this as it is very much multi 
choice, however the moving electrons in this other wire for arguments sake are 
moving in the same direction and they may not see those electrons as pancaked, 
instead they see the protons in the other wire as pancaking and attracting them 
toward the other wire.
Meanwhile the protons in this wire are seeing the electrons in the other 
wire as pancaking and attracting them.


This gives rise to the expected forces, only we have looked at the charges 
and the electric field only.


So please consider when talking about magnetism, only moving electric 
fields/charges create it, and only moving charges can feel it as an electric 
field at 90 degrees and in a direction dependent of their sign.


This is as far as I am aware considered conventional and accepted.


John, an INTJ (I feel this post should be proof read, but I can't be 
bothered :)


On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Mark Iverson <[email protected]> 
wrote:

You're right Terry, I don't like your answer!

And I 
  don't think any of the other explanations answered the question 
  adequately...

>From my purely physical model, it would be a natural 
  cause-effect relationship due to a polarizable
vacuum... i.e., the electric 
  and magnetic fields of mainstream physics are simply a result of 
  the
polarization of the local vacuum, and how particles respond to that 
  polarization.

With all the sophistication and accuracy to umpteen 
  decimal places in atomic physics/QM, how come we
can't explain WHY they're 
  perpendicular!  I think any theory should have to explain the 
  simple
observations first before delving down into more difficult and 
  esoteric aspects of physics.

-Mark

  
  
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Blanton 
  [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 
  Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 
  [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

You are 
  not going to like my answer:  "Because it is their nature."

Yeah. 
   Told you.

It is best understood by studying the Lorentz Force and 
  working your way from there.  I like this
site:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hph.html 
   (click on the bubble to expand)

but, there's always 
  Wikipedia.

Now Brian Greene would have me say "Because it is their 
  nature in this 
universe."

T


 

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