2011/6/24 Joshua Cude <[email protected]>: > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Jouni Valkonen <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I do not know how many times you and abd have been told that the >> measured boiling point of water is 99,7 °C. Therefore if there is mist >> mixed into dry steam, it will reduce the steam temperature below >> 99,7°C. But this is not what is observed, but steam temperatures that >> are above 100,1 °C. You really should not ignore the last decimal >> digit in the thermometer readings, because it makes all the >> difference, >> > > It is not the temperature reading that convinces me it is at the boiling > point, it is the fact that the temperature is so perfectly flat. This is explained that the heat resistor is below the water level. If you want to go significantly above 102 without increasing pressure, then it is necessary to boil all the water away and start heating steam directly. However one method, how to fabricate the result, is to increase pressure so that the boiling point increases. But as it is said quite clearly, the pressure is near room temperature, therefore boiling point is significantly below 100,1 °C, if we trust Rossi. If we do not trust, then discussion is meaningless, because E-Cat can be fabricated on all possible levels
There is not just enough information on all the variables that are affecting to the system. Therefore any constructive criticism is not possible, but we need to only trust or distrust what Rossi is saying, (he has 30 year experience on energy industry, therefore it is safe to assume that he knows what he is doing). Any arguments on validity of measurements are just speculative because all the necessary variables are not known. You should know that neither Rossi's Demonstrations, nor these speculative steam discussions are science, This is really important to remember what can be said and what cannot be said if there is insufficient knowledge available. Therefore this is only a matter of trust and distrust, not a matter of facts. However on Thursday, University of bologna did sign a research contract and they are free to publish any measurements that they make on arbitrary detail. If I understood rumors correctly, we should get independent scientific verification of E-Cat in early July. –Jouni
