On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > Jeff Driscoll <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Rossi has not done a definitive test. I don't trust him on his input >> mass flow rate (2 grams per second) . . . > > You don't trust that he can read a digital weight scale?
not when I look at all the circumstantial evidence > Do you trust that > Krivit can? If he had any presence of mind I suppose he checked, and he > would have reported a problem. He goes out of his way to find problems, > finding mainly imaginary ones. > >> or whether or not it was turned >> to vapor or just spurted out as liquid slugs of water into the drain. > > You saw in the video that it was steam! And in the video made by Lewan. You > don't believe your own eyes? > >> >> Levi has a lot to gain monetarily . . . > > From who? How? Where did you get this information? Levi's university will > reportedly get a grant from Rossi, but grant money does not go the professor > personally. If you suspect that results are tainted by grant money, you will > not believe 99% of research. > >> >> 2. Rossi's assertions of that steam quality can be measured with a >> Relative Humidity meter (it can't). > > Yes, it can. No it can't, I wrote a detailed email on Vortex as to why it can't, maybe I should repost it. >> >> 3. Rossi is not trained as a scientist (diploma mill college degree - >> is that true?) and virtually comes out of nowhere with huge claims. > > This is a bit like saying that Newton and Darwin were not trained as > scientists. Newton invented most of what we now call science, and before > Darwin biology did not exist, so there was no one to train them. Rossi is > one the most brilliant and original inventors in history. > > >> >> 4. Past legal convictions related to a waste disposal company. > > That has nothing to do with the claims, any more than Robert Stroud's murder > convictions cast doubt on this expertise in bird disease. Rossi's claims > have been independently confirmed by Defkalion, so there is no doubt they > are real. > > Greeks have their backs up against a wall financially speaking and desperate people will do desperate things. >> >> 5. His fiasco with the thermoelectric device contract. > > That was ordinary R&D, not a fiasco. It may yet be revived and made > successful. > > >> >> 6. Lack of quality scientific reports showing measurements and methods >> used to measure. > > He is not a scientist. He himself has said this many times. It is obvious he > is not! This is like accusing me of not being a musician. > >> >> Does anyone have comments they can make for or against Defkalion >> regarding their legitimacy? > > Their devices have been tested by Greek regulators; they have $280 million; > their board of directors that would be suitable for any Fortune 500 company. > Do you really, seriously think they are bamboozling the regulators, or > faking any of this? As I said, that is akin to the notion that the moon > landings were faked, or the 9/11 attacks were conducted by the U.S. > Government. > There is no doubt Defkalion's claims are real. That proves that Rossi's > claims must have been real all along. Do you suppose he is faking and yet by > a fantastic coincidence Defkalion tried the same material and it actually > worked? > Various skeptical doubts about Rossi's tests have been posted here and > elsewhere, such as claims that wet steam can reduce enthalpy by a factor of > 20, or the flow rate and other factors might have made his output heat 1000 > times less than it really was, or that the meter does not work as claimed in > the brochure and by various experts. All of these doubts -- without > exception -- are without merit. Rossi's crude estimate of enthalpy made > during Krivit's visit is correct. The temperature would not be 101 deg C if > there was not mostly dry steam. We don't know the atmospheric pressure or the back pressure in the tubing. Water boiling temperature increases by 1 degree C with a change of 0.6 psi. See here http://www.broadleyjames.com/FAQ-text/102-faq.html Also, we don't know the calibration of the instrument. We can't rely on +/- .1 degree C accuracy to verify huge claims. They may have intentionally miscalibrated the instrument by 0.5 degrees C. It's much better to heat 30 gallons of water from room temp to 50 C in front of 20 independent people who all have their own temperature measuring device. Anyone can confirm this, and it has been > confirmed millions of times in the last 200 years. > - Jed >
