I guess for some people too-good-to-be-true trumps too-absurd-to-be-a-lie...

Harry

From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:24:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vo]:Suppose the DoE were testing a device instead of the Greek 
>Min. of Energy
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>I wrote:
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>Memo from the Director of Safety Testing: Did you measure the generated heat?
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>>>Response from testing technician: No, of course not, that wasn't in the test 
>>>specification. We did not see any explosions. . . . 
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>Let me point out another thing about this un-funny joke, and the many similar 
>comments coming in by private e-mail. 
>The Greek government, like all other EU counties, has to certify that a 
>product does what is claimed. A company is not allowed to sell a product which 
>does not meet the advertised claims. That would be consumer fraud. Products 
>are tested by agencies to prevent this. If the company says a hybrid car gets 
>50 mpg and goes 100 mph, it has to submit prototypes to a testing agency that 
>will assure that is true, and give the car a rating. This is how things work 
>in U.S., the EU and Japan. 
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>Defkalion has a reactor they claim inputs 450 W and outputs 20 kW. If there is 
>no anomalous heat, and output is actually 450 W, the regulators will see that. 
>They will not allow Defkalion to go around claiming this is a kilowatt heater 
>if it isn't. 
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>A correspondent wrote to me that she does not trust EU regulators. They might 
>not do this job adequately. My response:
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>"To what extent do you not trust them? Do you think they are incapable of 
>measuring 450 W input and 20,000 W output, continuing for weeks or months? How 
>difficult do you think that is to confirm?
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>Do you seriously doubt that an EU government agency is incapable of 
>determining that? Have you ever been to Europe? You will note that buildings 
>there do not often collapse, the trains do not run off the rails, and Airbus 
>aircraft do not routinely fall from the skies. Evidently, their industrial 
>standards and agencies are about as good as ours.
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>It is one thing to have doubts about the ability of engineers to measure some 
>subtle effect, or to do a particularly difficult state-of-the art test. What 
>you are saying is that you don't trust these people can measure the difference 
>between 450 W and 20,000 W."
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>That's preposterous.
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>Abd is either joking, or he imagines it would not occur to these people to do 
>this measurement. That is also preposterous. It is also insulting and it 
>defies common sense and what all know about modern governments and commerce. 
>Corporations are not allowed to manufacture and sell fake 
>300,000 kilowatt scale reactors that actually only produce 450 W. That would 
>be like advertising and selling an ordinary 25 mpg car as a 2500 mpg magical 
>super-car. Regulators will notice you are doing that. They will shut you down 
>with a criminal injunction. Unless, of course, they have tested the car and 
>determined that it is true.
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>Lots of people -- customers and regulators -- would notice if Defkalion did 
>that. There is no chance that Defkalion will make money doing that. No country 
>on earth would allow them to do it. So stop with the absurd fantasies and the 
>denial of common-sense reality.
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>- Jed
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