At 06:07 PM 7/20/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
One interesting conspiracy theory hole is that in all demonstrations
(January, March and May) total excess energy production was roughly 22
MJ, what is energy contained in 170 g of hydrogen. This kind of
coincidence could be easily interpreted that there is somewhere small
hidden hydrogen bottle and catalyzed hydrogen burning cell.

­Jouni


Frankly, I think it's a waste to examine fraud scenarios, as such, because once we suspect fraud, there is no end to possibilities. Early claims by some that fraud was impossible here were simply naive. Frauds are possible. That doesn't mean likely, necessarily, but possible, they are. Human ingenuity is boundless. A *specific fraud* might seem unlikely, but there is no limit to the number of possible fraud techniques.

We address fraud by wanting to see independent verifications, it being considered unlikely that multiple independent, kowledgeable observers could be fooled by a fraud that they can examine in close detail. They don't need to be able to take the E-Cat apart, just to make sure that there aren't hidden inputs and that output is properly analyzed for heat released. Once the total excess energy out has well exceeded any known energy storage possibility, which these devices, if they operate as claimed, should be able to easily do, it's done.

The demand for self-powered operation is a classic pseudo-skeptical excuse, that's not necessary for an independent test, where input power can be nailed down accurately, and simply complicates the device.

(Suppose that this thing cheaply generates substantial extra power, but less than is necessary for self-powered operation. As an "energy amplifier," that could reduce energy costs substantially, it could still be a practical product. Of course, much more than that is being claimed.)

All this speculation is an attempt to jump the gun, to try to figure out of Rossi's results are plausible.

Or to be the first to Pin The Tail On The Donkey.

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