At 04:12 PM 8/3/2011, vorl bek wrote:
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> On 11-08-02 06:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
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> > I now conclude that Rossi is a fraud.

Rossi is probably certain that his device will produce miraculous
amounts of power, but he needs to get just a few small engineering
details right before it does, and he is sure he can do it by
October.

OK, maybe he faked a few demos. So what? The e-cat will surely be
ready in time.

Yeah, this is more or less my idea of what's going on.

He may even have some basis for thinking this. However, it's not enough to get some demonstration of "miraculous amounts of power." That's happened with cold fusion. Much more often, though, the experiments show a significant power, well above noise, but still way below levels necessary for practical applications. And the reliability sucks. I.e., for no apparent reason, one experiment will show much more power than another.

This should be made clear: that kind of phenomenon doesn't mean that the effect is not real. It means that the conditions are poorly understood or not controllable.

I was myself convinced regarding cold fusion by a very consistent experimental result: helium is produced, measured blind, in Pons-Fleischmann type cells, in amounts correlated with the excess heat, within experimental error at the value for deuterium fusion (which is the same value, due to fuel/ash mass difference, no matter what the mechanism, and the mechanism is probably not what we'd think of as d-d fusion.)

In those experiments, the "dead cells," the ones that don't produce excess heat, become excellent controls, otherwise as identical as they could be made!

But the unreliability is fatal to commercial application. Rossi may have seen some truly spectacular amounts of heat. That doesn't mean that he's necessarily ready for a commercial product, and, indeed, he might be running on that belief:

It's almost ready now!

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