Jed sez:

> I know little about cosmology, but is it not the case that:
>
> If dark matter exists the universe is more likely to end in a cosmic crunch,
> relatively soon.
>
> If it does not exist the universe will end with heat death much farther into
> the future.
>
> Just curious about this . . .
>
> Freeman Dyson wrote an essay saying that with a large enough reserve of
> energy civilization might last "indefinitely" or perhaps he said
> "infinitely" long in a heat-death scenario. I do not understand what he had
> in mind. You have to run out eventually.

Regarding some of these newly discovered forces like Dark Matter & Energy.

I think it gets even messier than that.

First there are the four "known" forces we all love, listed here in
order of diminishing strength:

1. Strong (nuclear forces)
2. Weak (beta-decay)
3. Electromagnetic forces
4. Gravity

But in recent times we must now tack on two additional hypothetical
forces that are presumably based on recent measurements painstakingly
correlated from powerful telescopes like the Hubble.

These two new forces are listed below in order of diminishing strength.

5. Dark Matter: a hypothetical "force", that is attractive by nature
in the gravitational sense. This "force" is supposed to help explain
why galaxies spin faster than they should - presumably because there
is a lot of unseen, undetectable "dark matter" milling about producing
a lot more gravity than what is seen. - THE BIG CRUNCH.

This is where some might wish to evoke a marvelous whimsical essay
written by Carl Sagan. The essay is titled "The Dragon in my Garage".
Jed, since you are an atheist at heart, I think you might enjoy the
following essay. It is from another kindred soul. See:

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

And finally...

6 Dark Energy. We are told there also exists another hypothetical
"force" called Dark Energy, which seems to be repulsive in the
gravitational sense. "Dark Energy" is supposed to explain why most
galaxies are not only flying apart from each other, but that the
measured acceleration is increasing. - The BIG CHILL

The really weird thing about forces 5 & 6 is the fact that both forces
seems to depend (or manifest) depending on the distance between the
physical material itself. In other words corresponding matter within a
galaxy is close enough in distance to each other such that the "dark
matter" attractive force is in full effect. However, corresponding
matter as measured between the vast distances between galaxies seems
to be far enough apart that the repulsive "Dark Energy" force now
comes into effect.

Do you understand now, Jed?

If so, maybe you can x'plain it to me cuz I still don't get it. I lost
track of that dragon long ago.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

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