On Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:21 AM Peter wrote [snip] I do know about trade 
secrets. I predict that a few months after corporations worldwide realize the 
Rossi reactors are real, this trade secret will be broken in dozens of 
corporations in the U.S., Europe, Japan and China. You can protect a trade 
secret for a product with a niche market that calls for inside knowledge, 
skill,  and lots of art. Conventional catalysts are a good example. You cannot 
protect a trade secret for a rather simple device that is vital to every 
industry on earth, and that is worth hundreds of trillions of dollars over the 
next 100 years.[/snip]

Peter,
            I would agree that Rossi is "stuck" with a weak patent. If the 
Rossi "trade secret" is the only catalyst that will work then he is indeed very 
lucky as Jones Beene surmised BUT in the very unlikely event that he has the 
theory correct then he would indeed deserve all the marbles. IMHO the lengthy 
communications online and his investment with University of Bologna reveals an 
ongoing struggle to leverage the secret recipe into revealing the theory. He 
admitted as much initially but then later tried to convince us he understood 
the underlying theory - He may honestly believe he has figured it out but 
without a comprehensive explanation that starts with how exactly the lattice 
environment and defects initiate the process, it will not survive the rigors to 
which such a paradigm shifting patent will be subjected. His procedures and 
materials are not even first generation without the stable control loop that 
broke the contract with Defkalion.

I predict that the turmoil will eventually fall out to a couple major 
contenders like the Mac [Mills] and PC [Italian researchers] with a third open 
source flavor like Linux based on expired patents and grand fathered by 
existing enthusiasts researching the Patterson and Meyers cells. I hope Rossi, 
Panatelli and Focardi all get some measure of reward but between patent 
litigation and human nature they are likely to die broken men if they don't  
accept a big industry buy out.
Regards
Fran


From: Peter Gluck [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:ANTICIPATING THE 1 MW DEMO

Dear Jed,
I think the best patent agents can improve a situation
but cannot reverse a lost situation to one of a winner.
If he had a compound X acting as catalyst, he could easily get a patent 
protecting the E-cats against copying of
the core with Compound X. Theoretically good, in practice
a bit complicated and risky.
peter
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Jed Rothwell 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Jouni Valkonen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Was this approach right or wrong, it can be debated. I think that it was just 
wrong approach.
I agree. Plus I think a test of a 1 MW reactor is fraught with difficulties. It 
is much easier to test 1 to 10 kW.



In my opinnion Rossi should have opensourced this technology back in 2009 when 
he filed patent application.

I think what you mean here is that he should have revealed the technology in 
anticipation of getting a patent. Not that he should have given it away. Some 
people have suggested he should give it away because it is so important, and it 
will save so many lives. That would make him the most generous philanthropist 
in history. I think it is asking too much that he should be both a brilliant 
inventor and also a philanthropist.

The problem with your plan may be that his patent is weak. He and Defkalion 
have both said they will rely on trade secrets to protect their intellectual 
property. That tells me his patent is weak.

I do not know much about patents but his other patent seems weak. Very weak. 
Like trying to stop an automobile with a spider's web.

I do know about trade secrets. I predict that a few months after corporations 
worldwide realize the Rossi reactors are real, this trade secret will be broken 
in dozens of corporations in the U.S., Europe, Japan and China. You can protect 
a trade secret for a product with a niche market that calls for inside 
knowledge, skill,  and lots of art. Conventional catalysts are a good example. 
You cannot protect a trade secret for a rather simple device that is vital to 
every industry on earth, and that is worth hundreds of trillions of dollars 
over the next 100 years.

I am only guessing here, but my impression is that Rossi is stuck. He seems to 
have no good method of protecting his intellectual property. That's awful. 
Assuming it works, it is the most valuable discovery in history and he deserves 
a trillion dollars in royalties. I fear he may get nothing.

If he gets nothing in the end, this will be partly his own fault. His 
personality may be causing problems. But it seems to me his main problem is 
that this particular intellectual property is very tough to protect. I cannot 
think of a good marketing strategy. I wouldn't know how to do this. If he asked 
my advice, I would suggest he talk to experts in patent law and intellectual 
property. Perhaps he has talked to them. Maybe he has a good strategy. I don't 
see how doing a 1 MW demonstration would fit into a good strategy, but since I 
know nothing about his plans I cannot judge.

- Jed




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Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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