Water flow is irrelevant to what I'm discussing. It is not a certainty that
Levi keeps the flow on during his power out. Clearly your grasp of physics is
limited. Insulting mother nature won't clinch proof of CF. If the best you have
is a dream you may as well join the rational thinkers.
----- Original Message -----
From: Horace Heffner
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Corrections to "heat after death" calculations
On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Joe Catania wrote:
[snip ad hominem and continued mistakes]
We aren't discussing water flow.
[snip ad hominem and continued mistakes]
Of course we are discussing water flow. The device had water pumped into it
at a constant rate. If you chose to ignore that then you chose to ignore
reality. Looking back, I do see that you simply chose to ignore reality in
your discussion with Jed.
Joe
On Aug 26, 2011, at 5:37 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Joe Catania wrote:
No, its not out of the question at all. Since we don't know the flow rate
of water (whether its flowing or not) and since it isn't particularly relevant
I neglect it.
The water is always flowing. This is a flow calorimeter.
It is completely unrealistic to suppose that you can boil water in device
this size, save up heat in metal, and then continue boiling at any observable
rate for more than a few seconds after the power goes off. That is out of the
question. The temperature of the metal would be far above the melting point.
The metal would be incandescent.
- Jed
Instead of talking imaginary things I suggest a quantitative analysis to see
what kinds of numbers make sense.
I have taken no position on the reality of input t this point except to say
it looks to me that 1 MJ of stored energy seems to be too high to be real.
Still, I ran some numbers that support that proposition. Applying logic to a
proposition is *not* accepting the proposition as true.
The statement:
If x then y
is not the same as:
x is true.
It merely provides the opportunity to examine y to see if it is feasibly
true.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
