Hi,

On 20-9-2011 0:11, Horace Heffner wrote:
It is not necessarily true that the E-cat can not harm a fly if there is no excess energy produced. This is because purely normal electrical input may be enough to blow the thing up. The 4 metric tons of mostly steel constitute an enormous thermal mass. With a steel heat capacity of 0.49 J/(gm K), the 1 MW E-cat has a possible thermal mass Mt given by:

Mt = (0.49 J/(gm K))(4 tons)(1x10^6 gm/ton) = 1.96x10^6 J/K

On 19-9-2011 23:47, Jed Rothwell wrote:
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    It's quite odd to notice that on the skeptical side of the fence
    the subject of CF continues to be perceived as a bogus &
    completely unproven source of energy. Therefore, one would infer
    from such conclusions that Rossi's 1 MW demonstration couldn't
    possibly harm a fly.


If it is fake, presumably those are electric heaters. Fake or real, it will produce a great deal of steam -- presumably about a megawatt, or it will not fool anyone. He could hardly get away with dry ice instead of steam. 1 MW of anything is dangerous: steam, hot water, hot air, electricity . . . Very dangerous!

It's funny to notice everyone (believers and skeptics) is talking about a 1 MW power plant, but if it has at least a COP of 6, which Rossi claims, then the input is a maximum of 167 kW! So if it's fake, there is only a 167 kW that can be dangerous, don't get me wrong that can still be very dangerous. But if you are a true skeptic than the calculations should be based also upon this fake amount of 167 kW i.s.o. 1 MW, because everyone can see the amount of energy that is put in it!

Kind regards,

MoB



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