Obviously a lot of effort went into this.  I am curious, where did the
information about the 1 bar pressure regulator in the outlet come from?  How
does that talley with the 124°C temperature that was recorded at 15:58,
given that 124°C implies a pressure (saturated steam) of 2.25bar absoulute
(1.25bar guage)

On 13 October 2011 18:25, Alan J Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote:

> Bob Higgins of Motorola Solutions did an analysis which he sent to Mats
> Lewans, who copied it to me and a couple of others on Vortex.
>
> Hello Mr. Lewan,
>
> I am enclosing my spreadsheet analysis of the data you published for Ing.
> Rossi’s October 6 test at U. of Bologna of his E-cat.  In this analysis, I
> tried to incorporate reported items such as water leakage, heat loss through
> the insulation, difference in source water temperature and the water
> temperature of Tin, and the final energy stored in the E-cat when the
> experiment was terminated.  If you have the occasion to look through this
> analysis, I would appreciate hearing of anything you find that may not be
> consistent with your observation as a first hand witness to the test.  You
> are welcome to share this with others that may also be able to evaluate the
> analysis for missing features or wrong calculations.
>
> We considered the possibility of contamination of the Tout by the hot
> water/steam of the heat exchanger primary input.  However, because the
> secondary water was flowing up out of the secondary outlet and out of the
> brass header, and the contamination primary heat would have to pass this
> water to reach the thermocouple, and because the flow rate was high in the
> secondary, heat from the primary inlet would quickly be diverted into the
> secondary outlet water.  Thus, very little of this contamination heat would
> make it to the thermocouple and cause temperature error - we regarded it as
> a possible minor second order error.  If you draw a cross-section picture of
> this pipe and the flowing water, you can see how possible contamination heat
> from the primary inlet would likely terminate in the secondary outlet water
> long before reaching the thermocouple.
>
> I would agree with everyone else that there was much that could have been
> improved the experiment, but the real point now it to understand the data we
> have and determine what information that can be derived from it with
> confidence.
>
> It is interesting now how the skeptical criticism on the net seems to be
> switching from “doesn’t work at all” to “doesn’t work with acceptable
> commercial COP”.  Are the skeptics now convinced there was large scale
> excess energy?  In and of itself, this is a physics shattering breakthrough.
>  It is clear from the data that the COP would have been much higher if the
> test had been run for a longer period.  I am personally excited by the
> results and data from the experiment.
>
> Thanks to Ing. Rossi for hosting the experiment – he was under obligation
> to no one to do the experiment - and to you for reporting the data.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Higgins
> Motorola Solutions
>
> I suggested he subscribe to vortex, but meanwhile ...
>
> He sent a very large spreadsheet, with a couple of interesting diagrams /
> plots.
>
> I've put some of them (with permission) in my initial draft report
> http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_**ecat_oct11_a.php<http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_oct11_a.php>
>
> I extracted and annotated a couple of pictures from his spreadsheet :
>
> a) a very nice schematic diagram of the fat-cat.
> http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_**pics/111012_bh_plots0002.png<http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111012_bh_plots0002.png>
> (He shows a pressure regulator at the outlet ... I don't know if this is a
> guess or new information!)
>
> b) Another data plot and comments
> http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_**pics/111012_bh_plots0001.png<http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111012_bh_plots0001.png>
>
> Initially, heat is stored in the E-cat as it is filled with water and the
> water is being heated.  This energy is accounted a lumped addition at the
> end.
> When E-cat fills at about 173 min into the experiment, steam is not yet
> formed and liquid spills into heat exchanger and there is measurable
> heat exchanger output.  Some of the stored energy in E-cat is being quickly
> lost into the heat exchanger as the liquid water carries out heat
> quickly.  This causes the spike seen just after 173 min.
> At 185 minutes, steam begins to form (crosses 100C) and by 200 minutes the
> steam is 110C which corresponds to about .6 bar pressure (AJF : over
> atmospheric -- 1.6 total).
> At 220 minutes, the steam reaches about 120C which is about 1 bar of
> pressure (over ambient) and the output is probably mostly steam.
> At 350 minutes, the steam is down to about 116C which may make it oscillate
> in the pressure valve:  valve closes, pressure builds up,
> valve opens and outputs a burst of steam, valve closes.  The data is too
> coarse to show this possible temperature/pressure oscillation.
> The oscillation probably gets averaged out in the heat exchanger heat
> measurement.  Probably needs and output measurement that
> also integrates all of the heat output in one big lump as a check.
> If oscillation occurs due to a pressurization valve, it could cause the
> temperature measurement in the reactor (green curve above) to be
> wrong.  There could be intermittent measurements of steam and water and the
> steam temperature could be oscillating.
>
> c) Overall energy balance
> Test of Rossi 27kW Reactor No 2  (1 of 3 reactor cells activated)
> Date: 6-Oct-11
> Location: University of Bologna, Italy
> Analysis: Bob Higgins
> Note:  See supplemental analysis at bottom of data for additional energy
> balance items.
> Heat exchanger efficiency = 0.98 [Rossi estimate]
> E-cat Insulation Value (R) = 6.0 W/(K*m^2) [Higgins, estimate]
> Est. E-cat surface area = 1.4 m^2           [Higgins, estimate]
> Reactor flow rate, Fp = 13.0 liters / h     [Lewan, est.; changes with
> time, var not used]
> Reactor water leakage, FL = 2.0 liters / h at 2 bar internal     [Lewan,
> est.]
> Exchanger flow rate, FE = 640.8 liters / h     [Lewan, measured]
> E-cat total heat output = 33.76 kWH  = 121.5 MJ
> Total electrical input energy = 8.97 kWH  = 32.3 MJ
>
> (That didn't copy very well ...)
>
> d) Residual Energy in Tank
>
> Final Temp of water in E-cat = 97.7 C
> Average Temp of input water to E-cat = 25.5 C
> Temp difference of remaining water = 71.7 C
> Est. volume of water in E-Cat at end =  20.0 liters remaining (est. liquid
> volume remaining, some internal volume may be steam.)
> Heat stored in E-Cat water = 1.667 kWH heat remaining in water at end of
> data
> Weight of E-Cat =  98 kg
> Average specific heat of E-Cat (est.) = 0.07 (presume an average of steel
> and lead)
> Est. Heat stored in E-Cat structure =  0.572 kWh heat remaining in E-Cat
> structure at end of data
>
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