At such a great scale "The Oct. 28 Test" is a contradiction in terms- it has to be at least "the 3 days test starting on Oct. 28" No company having elementary idea of engineering would accept a short test for such a Behemoth, there are necessary hours to make all the 52 Fat-Cats functional, then they work or not work 3-4 hours and it is over.. Who can accept such a test? Why?
This Partner has not helped Rossi who was forced to sell his house in order to continue. The most probable is that the test will be done by the inventor's people from his US company and by some specialists hired by Ampenergo- i.e. NO real partner exists. The identity of the experimenters will not be revealed probably and we will receive results from Rossi, as he wish. We will see no instruments and no steam commensurate with 1 MW heat. My bet is NO REAL CUSTOMER. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have no idea who this customer might be. I do not like to guess, > speculate or read the tea leaves when I have no information, but I believe > it is unlikely that a major corporation is involved. I say this for the > following reasons: > > Several large corporations and institutions such as Georgia Tech have > contacted me about this test. They say it would be unwise to test such a > large reactor without first doing a series of small-scale tests at lower > power levels. Jumping up to high level without first doing these tests would > be dangerous. They are baffled by this plan. I have echoed their remarks > here. So I do not think they would countenance such a large increase. > > I asked Rossi whether he has a permit to do this test. He did not respond. > I do not know whether he has one or not, but it seems unlikely to me. I > simply cannot imagine that any sane government official would issue one. I > hate to speculate about these things but that seems impossible. Large > corporations are sticklers for the rules. They *write* the rules, in > cooperation with government regulators. I doubt they would get involved in a > test of a large nuclear reactor that is probably an egregious criminal > violation of health and safety standards. I do not know about Europe but in > the US or Japan this would cause a major scandal, with people being arrested > and perp-walked in front of reporters. This is not something GE or > Mitsubishi would let themselves get involved in, ever, under any > circumstances. > > If a subordinate at GE were to suggest getting involved, I suppose > management would demand a copy of the permits and certifications for the > reactor as the first step. They would demand technical documents showing > that the reactor was designed by a professional engineering firm that > specializes in pressure vessels. They would want to see computer simulations > of pressure and heat conditions, and certificates showing that the welding > was done by certified experts. I sure as heck would. Testing a laboratory > scale device is one thing; industrial equipment is quite another. A machine > of this size and power is dangerous, even when it is designed with the best > modern computers and simulations, and when it is fabricated by experts and > then carefully examined by an inspector. A conventional combustion reactor > of this size is dangerous. If a hose connection fails, the hose may fly off > with enough force to crush someone's skull, and the steam may scald them to > death. This is not a damned toy, or something you casually turn on after a > few weeks of partial testing. > > The test on October 6 clearly did not involve any professional engineering > or instrumentation such as a corporation would bring. Terry Blanton remarked > that a corporation would use large, professional grade instruments with > recent NIST certification stickers. You can recognize this kind of thing. I > did not see any. They did not even have a computer or flow meters for some > of the critical data. To be blunt, the October 6 test was so half-assed, the > students at my local high school could have done a better job. (Granted > several of those kids got into MIT and Georgia Tech.) I find it hard to > believe that a major corporation would jump into this project and be > prepared for a 1 MW test three weeks after the test that produced somewhere > between six and 10 kW but you can't tell because the instruments were so > bad. > > Videos and photographs of the equipment outdoors to not show any sign of > professional instrumentation being deployed around it. Again, I do not think > that a professional organization would jump in and be prepared to do a major > test with the outside equipment in three weeks. > > - Jed > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
