I am sorry if my statement annoys you Mary. You suggest that you might be willing to accept the slim possibility that Rossi is honest. I will give you the benefit of the doubt if you promise that your statement reflects your real opinion. On the other hand, Mr. Cude has made it quite clear that he does not believe that Rossi or anyone else has achieved a LENR reaction. He fabricates evidence that suggests either the customer engineer is lying or incompetent. He claims that the system approved and set up by the same engineer is useless in recovering water that escapes from the ECATs. He accuses people who are convinced that the ECAT might be successful of being ignorant of "his" truths. I do not recall him ever saying that LENR is possible, and I would like for you to correct me if I am misunderstanding his position.
There is little reason for me to keep repeating the same position over and over to answer his negative statements and I refuse to continue. Vortex should not be used as a board where the loudest screamers seem true. This is not productive. You have been subjected to a significant amount of ridicule for repeating the same ideas in a similar manner and should understand this concept well. New ideas as well as building upon existing ones is the way to move forward and I and most others appreciate that type of conversation. I will answer any questions that arise concerning my hypothesis, provided they are not combative and repetitive. I as much as anyone else wants to determine models of the ECAT and related devices that are rigorous and true. You should know that by now. That is my only goal and if the ECAT demonstrates performance that is lacking I will reveal my findings as I have in the past. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mary Yugo <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Nov 24, 2011 1:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Joshua Cude <[email protected]> wrote: > The poster is > convinced that Rossi is scamming and there is no level of proof that will be > accepted otherwise. I find that assertion annoying. Several others including, IIRC, Cude, nd I have said under what criteria Rossi's claims would be credible nd those criteria are both entirely reasonable and easy to fulfill. or, as some assert, would proper testing in any way risk revealing ossi's secret. On the other hand, selling E-cats in batches of 50 or ore as a "plant" certainly does risk his secrets. Rossi has now categorically refused *public* pleas from four strong upporters of LENR/cold fusion -- Josephson, Celani, McKubre and othwell to get independent testing and I am sure many others have sked him as well by personal communications. I don't recall anyone here saying categorically that Rossi is camming. Can you quote such a statement from a regular participant n this email list? I think Rossi's critics say he's *acting* like a cammer and he most certainly is for reasons I have carefully outlined ere before. M.Y.
