The usual black pot witch's brew -- ah, yes, severe corrosion -- would Heffner or Cude like to give this one a close shave -- more details than Rossi -- be fun to practice on something new -- any followup research by anyone?
within mutual service, Rich Murray http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/fic/F/F199010.PDF 1990 October ISSN 1051-8738 VOLUME 2 NUMBER 4 FUSION FACTS OCTOBER 1990 SPECIAL ISSUE FOR ATTENDEES AT ANOMALOUS NUCLEAR EFFECTS IN DEUTERIUM/SOLID SYSTEMS CONFERENCE Brigham Young University - OCT 22-24, 1990 EXCESS HEAT USING MOLTEN SALT ELECTROCHEMICAL CELL A. EXCESS HEAT USING MOLTEN-SALT ELECTROCHEMICAL CELL By Professors Liaw, Tao, Turner, & Liebert THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE is published complete with TABLES AND FIGURES. B.Y. Liaw, P.L. Tao (Hawaii Natural Energy Inst), P. Turner & B.E. Liebert (Dept. of Mech. Engr., U of Hawaii), "Elevated Temperature Excess Heat Production Using Molten-Salt Electrochemical Techniques", Being published in the Proceedings of the Special Symposiumon Cold Fusion,World Hydrogen Energy Conference #8, Honolulu, HI, July 22-27, 1990. Note: We are grateful to the authors and to the University of Hawaii for permission to print this important technical paper in full in this issue of Fusion Facts. Given the very large energy yields and the potential application to amuch wider group of alloys, the editors believe this to be one of the most important papers to be given at a cold fusion symposiumsince the initial announcement by Fleischmann and Pons of the discovery of cold fusion (March 23, 1989). ABSTRACT An investigation of elevated-temperature excess heat production in the Ti-D and Pd-D systems is presented here. A eutectic LiCl- KCl molten salt saturated with LiD is used as the electrolyte in a Pd/Al or Ti/Al electrochemical cell. Typical operating temperatures are around 370°C, which results in faster kinetics compared to room temperature operation. If this system can be developed for utility applications, high-grade heat and high thermodynamic efficiencies can be expected. Since the electrolyte provides a very reducing environment, metal surface oxides are readily removed; thus, this unique system offers the possibility ofusing less expensive materials than Pd. Amodified isoperibol calorimeter was built for the excess power measurements. Preliminary results show high levels of excess power output, especially in the Pd-D system, although the effect remains sporadic. On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote: > I spoke with Liaw at ICCF-2 Como 1991. The system had very great problems of > corrosion. > Rule No. 6 of problem solving says: NOT the main desired positive effect, > but those secondary negative and/or undesired effects decide in most cases > if a solution is implemented. > It seems corrosion was so severe that this way was abandoned.. > Peter > ( > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/06/super-rule-included-complete-list-of.html > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Alan Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It was in the 1990 paper : >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > Liebert's still around : >> > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/fic/F/F199010.PDF >> > 1990 : EXCESS HEAT USING MOLTEN-SALT ELECTROCHEMICAL CELL >> > By Professors Liaw, Tao, Turner, & Liebert >> >> As an example shown in the last entry in TABLE I, the power to >> the heating tape was maintained at about 69.25 W, the cell >> potential was typically in the range of 2.45 V, and the >> electrochemical input power was about 1.68 W at 692 mA/cm2 >> for a total input power of about 70.9W. We would expect 1.68 >> Wof joule heating to result in a 5.1 °C increase in temperature; >> however, the temperature increased by 82.4° C, which >> corresponds to a gain of about 27.1 W, according to the >> calibration curve. Therefore, a net gain of 25.4Wwas in excess, >> which results in an excess power gain of 1512 percent, in the >> range of 627 W/cm3 Pd. > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >

