This waterspout video seems to support the laminar hypothesis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN7ug1zoWWE

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:02 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Chapter 5 (page 107) of the 2011 doctoral thesis Numerical Simulation of
> Tornado-like 
> Vortices<http://vortexengine.ca/cfd/Diwakar_Natarajan_Full_thesis.pdf> by
> Diwakar Natarajan concludes that cross-winds do not affect the power
> generation capacity of the AVE, but it appears that this is only with
> respect to ambient temperature.  He specifically calls for further research
> into the significance of temperature gradients with altitude.  Is there any
> further work that discounts the possible cross-wind induced loss of vortex
> integrity at the altitudes required to achieve lower exhaust temperatures
> required for higher Carnot efficiency?
>
> The AVE CFD page <http://vortexengine.ca/cfd.shtml> presents a
> disagreement with Natarajan's use of turbulent mode simulation.  This
> disagreement is based on behavior of physical models showing laminar flow,
> one of which was water-spouts and the other being a laboratory scale
> model.  The implication is that the adjoining photograph of a laboratory
> scale model <http://www.vortexengine.ca/Physical_Models_LM-3.shtml> 
> demonstrates
> a vortex that is in disagreement with Natarajan's application of turbulent
> mode simulation at high Rayleigh numbers.  Is anyone aware of further
> resolution of this point of disagreement?

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