On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:09 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > From MY: > >>> From Rossi: >>> >>> ... E-CATS ARE FOR SALE ONLY FOR WHAT CONCERNS 1 THERMAL MW PLANTS, >>> BECAUSE THE 10 KW E-CATS ARE NOT YET CERTIFIED ... > > I made the mistake of browsing through my filter pile. I found this from MY: > >> I'm confused. Megawatt nuclear fusion plants are certified >> (or don't need certification)? In what country and which >> universe? Who will provide liability insurance for [Rossi's eCats]? > > Of course Megawatt nuclear fusion plants need some kind of > certification. It is only natural to also speculate that the > technology pertaining to Rossi/Defkalion gadgets will probably need > some kind of certification too, particularly since they all claim a > "nuclear" process is involved. >
We agree on that. Yet Rossi says he sold a megawatt gadget that uses some sort of mass to energy conversion and he didn't seem to get any certification -- not any he showed or talked about anyhow. In fact, he implied that because this device is industrial grade, it doesn't need it! > MY seems to live in a universe where she seems to think she is the > first person who has just realized this issue.She seems to have > conveniently ignored numerous posts from Mr. Rothwell who has already > discussed the ramifications of this very issue numerous times. Yes, it > most likely WILL be a prickly issue. > Rossi says he sold 12 more of his so-called plants. How does that work without certification? And IIRC they are supposedly going to the US where regulation is especially strict. > Meanwhile, it is interesting to note that lately MY seems to have > shifted her arguments from the premise that Rossi's eCats are most > likely a scam operation to speculation that while they might actually > be for real nobody in their right mind will want to "certify" them. Not at all. I am pointing out that there is *yet another* inherent contradiction in Rossi's writings on his blog. I still think it's most likely a scam operation. Rossi implies in the text he wrote which I quoted that he can get away without certification for a megawatt plant. He implies that he can do that because it's for industry rather than for the home. But that's nonsense. People who spout nonsense repeatedly like Rossi does, usually are scammers. Or do you really believe he had a large nuclear fusion heater warming his factory for a year and do you really believe he enriches nickel isotopes on the cheap and do you really believe he has a self destruct device in every E-cat module? That's what he's said and much more weirdness. > IOW, the line in the sand has been redrawn. I suspect the line in the > sand will be redrawn several more times before this is all over. > The line in the sand hasn't mover a millimeter and it's always the same : INDEPENDENT TESTING by a credible source. That's all. Just once -- either for Rossi or Defkalion -- it's low risk (black box), cheap, quick and fairly easy. And they won't do it. And before someone chides me for repetition, it seems the believers tend to forget that bottom line.

