As I expected, I was wasting my time sending that message to Defkalion. They responded and I wasted more time responding to them. Both messages are below.
This will only alienate them more, and sour my relationship with them. Still, I would not want the rest of the world to think that I countenance or excuse this kind of behavior. It is difficult to judge events in a foreign country you know nothing about . . . but -- They are issuing a written statement in response to allegations of criminal behavior by *a member of the Board of Directors*, for crying out loud! A written statement, when they could clear up the whole situation in a few days with a proper third-party test. That is mind-blowing. In the U.S. or Japan, this would land them in a world of trouble. Their response would be considered insane -- or a tacit admission of guilt. This is not only my opinion. Every business person I have discussed this with is appalled by this situation, and by their response. I may not know business practices in Greece, but I sure do know the standards of the U.S. and Japan. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4263#p4263 @ Jed Rothwell 1. Defkalion GT is a business entity developing and producing industralized high tech energy products. Such products are not only performance critical related but also safety, stability, functionality etc. Testing just to proove that LENR is real is a limitted target, which could be of interest of any academic or research lab. 2. Many people contacted us to perform "blind closed box" tests, like the "simple" one you suggest. We found out that all of them do not care about products but only to act as technology brokers to third party investements, using such "independent" testing as their profit opportunity. We are sorry to say that we do not deal with technology brokers nor asking for any source of funds. 3. As for prof. Stremmenos, please refer to our company's announcement to be released . Regards DGT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4301#p4301 Defkalion GT wrote: 1. Defkalion GT is a business entity developing and producing industralized high tech energy products. Such products are not only performance critical related but also safety, stability, functionality etc. Testing just to proove that LENR is real is a limitted target, which could be of interest of any academic or research lab. DGT I do not understand these statements. The methods used to test a system are the same whether you are doing a comprehensive test or a black box test. The motivations of the people doing the test are irrelevant. The person doing the test must be a qualified engineer, but it makes no difference whether the engineer comes from a university or a corporation. In your announcement, and here, you say there will be "independent third party" tests in a few months. You even said you would broadcast video of these tests on the web. Yet here you seem to be saying here that only potential customers, not academic scientists, will do these tests. I do not think customers would be considered independent. They would probably not want the tests broadcast or the results made public. Also, what happened to the test results from the Greek government? You said that you would publish them months ago. Why have you not done this? Defkalion GT wrote: @ Jed Rothwell 3. As for prof. Stremmenos, please refer to our company's announcement to be released . DGT Stremmenos is a famous Greek scientist. He is a member of your Board of Directors. He accuses your company of fraud and gross misconduct. By U.S. standards, a written response to these accusations is completely inadequate. This is a very serious matter. If something like that happened at a U.S. corporation, it would make headlines in the local newspapers, and federal and local police would investigate. No U.S. company would respond with a mere written statement, if it was within their power to disprove the charges easily by doing a demonstration. Perhaps I should not judge a situation in Greece by the standards of US business and law. But what you are saying and doing would be unthinkable by our standards. If you were in the U.S., you would have police detectives in your office executing search warrants and removing documents and computers. I am sure this would also happen in Japan. Any American or Japanese businessman I know would consider your situation a legal and public relations disaster that calls for a drastic response, not mere statements.
