On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Charles Hope
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Are there any examples of pathological science persisting 20 years without
> being properly debunked? Are there any examples of new science remaining on
> the fringe for 20 years before being finally accepted into the mainstream?
>
>
Perpetual motion fits the first question. There are adherents to it that
will claim it has not been debunked, and that's been centuries.

There are a lot of medical claims that would also fit. Homeopathy,
(straight) chiropractic, acupuncture, the vaccine-autism connection,
psychic healing, or any paranormal phenomena. None of these are accepted by
mainstream science, but will probably never be debunked to the satisfaction
of their adherents.


I have posed the latter is a question frequently, albeit qualified, and
without a good response.

There are some examples of theories or phenomena that took decades to be
accepted, but not small-scale, bench-top type experiments. Examples include
Wegener's continental drift, maybe black holes, and Lawrence cited a
dinosaur theory. These are in fields that give up data greedily.

The closest example of a small-scale theory that I have seen is
Semmelweis's disinfection (hand-washing), which was ridiculed for a long
time. But you have to go back 150 years for that example.

I think most phenomena (especially in the physical sciences) that can be
tested on a bench top, and that turn out to be real, were accepted pretty
quickly. And revolutionary theories to explain a lot of well-established
experimental results, like relativity and quantum mechanics were accepted
almost as quickly as they were proposed. QM took time to be developed of
course, but who could doubt that Bohr was on to something when quantization
of the angular momentum reproduced the empirically determined Rydberg
formula for atomic spectra?

Rothwell likes to list various technologies that took time to develop, like
the transistor and the laser (which did see some skepticism), but none of
his favorite examples are anything close to case of cold fusion where the
concept is rejected out of hand by the mainstream for 20 years.

This year's nobel prize in chemistry represents another case of skepticism
proved wrong. Shechtman's proposed quasicrystals were ridiculed (most
vociferously by Linus Pauling who said there were no quasicrystals, only
quasi-scientists), and he was kicked out of his research group. But the
derision lasted only a couple of years, and he was published in PRL, at the
height of it, and began getting awards soon after, culminating, in less
than 20 years, in the nobel prize.

Contrary to popular argument, science actually celebrates novelty and
revolution, and scientists are not afraid of disruptive experiments; they
crave them. Fame, glory, funding, and adoration come to those who make
breakthroughs, not those who add decimal places. The problem is, the
revolutionary science has to be right...

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