Morning Horace! Thx for the thoughtful commentary... I am not suggesting that the ensembles that act as the energy sinks are all over, or take up large areas of the material... they are localized, and perhaps act as a 'cage' which contains the hi-E photon until it dissipates its E into the lattice (electron oscillators). RE: the criticism that it would be hard to shield the gammas if ejected very close to the surface... 1) unless the preferred direction of ejection is either parallel to, or in the opposite direction of the 'outside'. That preferred direction being caused by the loading of the H or D, which is more likely uniform closer to the surface, and thus, generates the most regular/coherent layer which acts as the energy sink. There is also some explanation in #2) below which also applies to this criticism.
RE: the surface being 'dirty', less than pristine... 2) when looked at macroscopically, you are right, but I think the evidence is that the active sites of LENR are very small, and so when one considers that, it's not so much of a stretch to see numerous SMALL localized areas which present extremely pristine/uniform conditions. I do understand your point that the energy being reduced or downshifted probably occurs inside the nucleus... and I may need to incorporate that idea into my physical model, however, it's still about resonances... and when certain elements within the atom come into resonance, which requires very specific conditions, things happen which are outside the standard model. How does one explain the observation that the energy involved with interactions of electrons is a million times less than nuclear interactions, and yet the 'electric' charges are 'equal' (and opposite). I would argue that there is no 'electric charge'; charge cannot be separated from the e or p 'objects'. IS the concept of 'charge', and thus, attraction and repulsion, simply a function of the harmonic relationships (or lack thereof) between the e- and p+ oscillators? e- oscillators are simply at a different octave; are the different e- shells also different octaves? The whole concept of 'charge' was used as a PRACTICAL model, and was developed when instrumentation was extremely crude compared to modern times. I've been working on a PHYSICAL explanation for numerous observations. Positing that we are dealing with coupled oscillators then, would it not be possible to increase/decrease the oscillation/vibration frequency of the e-/p+ until they are harmonically related in such a way that the e-'s energy gets 'sucked into' that of the p+ to create a n, and a small residual (v). Or is it that the small residual (v) amount of energy gets ejected first, thus causing a special harmonic relationship between e and p with the e's energy being sucked into the p? Ho, Ho, Ho! -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 10:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]: Resonances... On Dec 17, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: [snip] > > This ties in with Alchemy as well, and the very difficult time LENR > scientists had with repeatability... conditions HAVE TO BE JUST RIGHT, > or else the effect does not manifest. This should tell you something about this kind of downshifting theory, as well as the Chubb theories, and W&L theory. In many cases the LENR reactions have been determined to occur at or very near the surface. This presents two major problems: (1) there is not enough material between the reaction site and the surface to screen gammas by the means suggested, and (2) the surfaces of cathodes are typically very dirty, hardly a pristine lattice. Proof of the ability of a very thin film surface layer to screen high energy gammas by collective action should be relatively easy to obtain. All that is required is a an x-ray tube, an x-ray flux meter, and an x-ray transparent medium on which the surface film is deposited and operated under the proposed conditions. Cold fusion as been proposed to be enhanced by nanostructures. A surface layer of nanoparticles one deep should be capable of producing LENR. If so, such a layer should not be capable of suppressing MeV level gammas - yet it should be feasible to test for high energy particles or gammas. I know of no one proposing a collective action which bridges nanoparticle gaps. I think it is much more probable that high energy nuclear radiation is suppressed or downshifted before it leaves the reacting nucleus excited state. It seems to me the state of nuclei undergoing LENR is necessarily de-energized a priori, i.e. before the energy of fusion is released. An obvious mechanism to achieve this a priori de- energizing is one or more electrons in the reacting nucleus before the nuclear reaction occurs. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
