*I speculate that the trigger results in a release of potential energy to
kinetic energy in a quantum mechanical system.*

*The nuclear reaction (fusion) is kept in a state of inaction or IOW,
quantum mechanical superposition (QMS) for an indefinite timeframe until
triggered.*

*This trigger causes decoherence of the state of QMS to release the
potential energy stored in the system.*


On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Horace:****
>
> The problem I see with some kind of outside trigger is that the “turn-on”
> of excess heat would occur randomly… how does one control when that cosmic
> ray or muon will initiate the reaction?  In one of the demos, it appeared
> to turn on at a specific temperature.****
>
> -mark****
>
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> *From:* Horace Heffner [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:32 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]: Cosmic Trigger?****
>
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> I just saw this post.  I am only reading about 1 in 20 posts due to lack
> of time.  I hope if anything technical develops in long threads that new
> threads with meaningful titles are created. ****
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> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:41 AM, David Roberson wrote:****
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> ****
>
> On an earlier post I suggested that the LENR reactions such as those
> exhibited by Rossi could have been triggered by cosmic rays.  I was a
> little disappointed by the few comments that were generated and I was
> hoping to further study this possibility.****
>
> One of the main skeptic positions is that it takes far more energy to
> activate the fusion like reaction than is available at normal
> temperatures.   Why should we limit our thoughts to some form of steady
> state conditions for the initiation of the reactions when it may just take
> some triggering events to overcome the barriers?  How many different
> initiation locations are required to make a block of TNT explode?
> Hopefully these are not occurring randomly, and if they were, who could
> store the material safely?****
>
> Let’s try to determine whether or not the basic cosmic ray trigger concept
> is possible.  If it is, what evidence should we look for in an effort to
> make that determination?****
>
> First, is there enough energy available within a cosmic ray to activate a
> LENR reaction at any location within a nickel-hydrogen complex?  Mr. Cude
> suggests that it takes in excess of 100 keV to overcome the proton to
> nickel coulomb barrier.  His number seems agreeable to me, and now the
> question is whether or not this can be obtained by cosmic ray collisions?*
> ***
>
> Second, if a small volume of material achieves reaction and releases
> several MeV of energy does the material then allow the reaction to spread?
> Of course the release of many MeV at the active region now would be
> adequate to enable more reactions since it far exceeds the 100 keV
> threshold suggested if in the correct form.  Is there evidence pro or con
> as to whether or not this is happening?****
>
> Third, are the pits seen on the electrodes of electrolysis type systems an
> indication that small regions are undergoing some form of extreme spot
> heating?  Could this crater forming type of event suggest that miniature
> reactions involving millions of atoms are occurring?  If so, why does the
> reaction head along one main path toward the surface instead of spread out
> uniformly?  Could it be that the reaction follows the path of one of the
> suspect cosmic ray particles as it moves like a bulldozer through the
> matrix?  Is it possible that the energy is released in a favorable
> direction to conserve momentum?****
>
> Forth, I was reading that muons are one of the main particles remaining
> once a cosmic ray reaches the ground level.  Have they been shown to
> activate cold fusion reactions in lab experiments and considered a well
> respected proven concept?  I understand that the normal process is for DT
> reactions to be catalyzed, but there is mention of formation of a neutron
> like atomic structure.   The size of this combination proton-muon group is
> extremely tiny and might be capable of overcoming the coulomb barrier by
> tunneling into the nickel nucleus.  Why could this not happen within the
> Rossi type reactor where hydrogen gas is held within a high temperature and
> pressure environment?  Could this then deliver the triggering energy needed?
> ****
>
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>
> The muon reaction does not work for p + p because p + p is a weak
> reaction, thus has a very small cross section, very small reaction
> distance.   It requires (in nuclear terms) a much long exposure time and
> much closer proximity than D+D, D+T or P+D.****
>
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> ****
>
> As you can see, I have listed a lot of questions that seek answers.  The
> vortex community has numerous experts available that could help enlighten
> me and others if they would take a little time to consider these
> questions.  I would find your responses as a well deserved break from the
> endless semantic games that are filling the bandwidth.  Was the vortex
> originally formed as a collection of scientifically interested persons
> intending to discuss new concepts?  Please demonstrate that we are here to
> work together instead of arguing endlessly.  Thanks guys.****
>
> Dave****
>
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>
> In my deflation fusion theory the Coulomb barrier is overcome due to
> formation of a small magnetic force based electron orbital.  The resulting
> hydrogen is neutral, thus there is no Coulomb barrier to it tunneling into
> a nearby nucleus as an ensemble.  Further, magnetic gradients make the
> tunneling energy positive, thus greatly increasing the tunneling range, and
> thus reducing the lattice half-life of such an entity. ****
>
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>
> Anything that increases electron density and flux around/through absorbed
> hydrogen nuclei, without destroying the lattice, increases the density of
> the deflated state and the probability of fusion.  I think controlled
> electron  flux is much better than electrons freed by cosmic rays, because
> lattice destruction should be much less in comparison.  There are various
> means of inducing dense electron flux on nanoparticle surfaces. ****
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> Best regards,****
>
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>
> Horace Heffner****
>
> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/****
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> ****
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