These are all good points, at the same time as with everything you have to put all the evidence together to get an overall picture. The starvation is real, I spent all day yesterday in looking at documentaries and reportage about North Korea. There is a lot of information from different countries talking about the same thing. There are thousands of people that escape North Korea that are good witnesses of what is going on in NK and they say the same thing. I have been in the Baltic after the fall of the Soviet Union and I recognize a lot of the same signs of repression of totalitarian systems but much worse in this version. Listen to some of the news reports made in NK. The announcer talks as it is announcing some kind of end of the world news even when they talk about daily situations. You have to listen for yourself to see what I'm talking about. It is all part of the same capillary mechanism of brainwashing and control of the population. Believe me I'm a strong critic of capitalism and many american attitudes but there is no doubt the NK is a brutal government. Giovanni
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Daniel Rocha <[email protected]> wrote: > The suspenseful music talking all the time. Forgetting that most people > have superstition everywhere, even by thanking acts living people, like > Pope's touch. Being shorter as a measure of poverty. Not acknowledging or > giving credit for the NK's reasons for their isolation and thus possible > deaths by starvation (pictures please,btw), make sure that these > humanitarian organizations are just not corrupted by american interests, > etc.... > > > 2012/1/3 Giovanni Santostasi <[email protected]> > >> Right, people shorter by 2-3 inches in average from their South-Korean >> counterpart is propaganda. Several humanitarian organizations talking about >> 3 million deaths by starvation is propaganda. Watch the documentary and >> tell me where the propaganda is. >> Watch how people that were helped by the humanitarian mission by the >> Nepalese doctor for free to regain their eyesight don't thank the doctor >> but the dictator portrait, tell me where is the propaganda in that. >> Come on.... >> Giovanni >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Daniel Rocha <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Yeah, anti NK propaganda. >>> >>> 2012/1/3 Giovanni Santostasi <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Please if you are interested in North Korea situation dgo on the >>>> youtube and watch some of the several videos about the real North Korea. >>>> Here is one by National Geographic: >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQXfMMHV8FM >>>> >>>> What one has to understand that North Korea created the capital city as >>>> an haven for privileged people. The picture you are seeing in the Jouni's >>>> link is not how the poor people live but how the privileged do (well, the >>>> dictator himself lives much, much better of course) . >>>> When a foreigner visitor comes to North Korea he sees only setups where >>>> they show a "Disneyland" fantasy of North Korea. The visitor is always in >>>> the presence of some guide from the government. Everything is scheduled and >>>> propped. The food, the houses, the children dancing, all set up to show a >>>> decent face of North Korea to external world. The reality is that millions >>>> are starving to death everywhere else. Internet is forbidden, any computers >>>> has to be registered, cell phone are only for a tiny elite. Any criticism >>>> of the government is punished with concentration camps for the offender and >>>> his extended family. >>>> You get to be part of the elite that lives in the capital by spying on >>>> people and be a servant to the ruling class. >>>> Please get informed and do anything possible to make people aware on >>>> how horrible are the life condition in North Korea. Nobody in the world >>>> should live in such a hell. >>>> Giovanni >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Daniel Rocha <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Overall that seems much, much better than my country. Poor people here >>>>> are in way worse conditions than in those photos. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2012/1/3 Jouni Valkonen <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone visited North Korea and took some hundreds of good quality >>>>>> pictures. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://testroete.com/northkorea.html >>>>>> >>>>>> It is not that common to see those from that poor country. >>>>>> >>>>>> –Jouni >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Daniel Rocha - RJ >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Rocha - RJ >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Daniel Rocha - RJ > [email protected] > >
