Hi Mary Yugo,

I've become pretty jaded about CF, and especially Rossi, so have
mostly quit following anything except your comments -- I know if
anything believable shows up, you'll be right on it...

also, spending more time with a 13 year crusade re aspartame
(methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity:

new book, concise opus "While Science Sleeps" life saving facts re
aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) -- 740 full text references are
free online -- Woodrow "Woody" C. Monte, retired Prof. of Nutrition,
Arizona State University: Rich Murray 2012.01.03

http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-book-concise-opus-while-science.html

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1631

http://www.amazon.com/While-Science-Sleeps-Woodrow-Monte/dp/1452893675/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325344126&sr=8-2

about 240 pages text, with 740 full text references free online
$ 37.98 paperback -- see:

www.WhileScienceSleeps.com

http://www.amazon.com/review/RNGG3O7U33VCV

Customer Review

life saving facts -- the life work of an earnest, careful, caring,
bold expert, December 30, 2011
By Mr. Richard T. Murray "rmforall"

This review is from: While Science Sleeps (Paperback)

This work is the culmination of a professional lifetime dedicated to
elucidating the key biochemical details of methanol (formaldehyde)
toxicity, starting with a comprehensive warning review in 1984, with
62 references, by the earnest, careful, bold Woodrow "Woody"
C. Monte, retired Prof. of Nutrition, Arizona State University.

He has been sharing his research with me since 1999, including
parts of this masterpiece, as it evolved during the last three years.

Aspartame is indeed 11% methanol (wood alcohol), which the
human body quickly turns into formaldehyde via the ADH enzyme,
concentrated in many tissues: liver, kidney, brain, retina, skin,
muscle, lung, prostate, breast, womb, fetus -- forming cumulative
micro lesions, binding to and disabling DNA, RNA, and proteins,
and so causing a wide variety of symptoms.

Other methanol (formaldehyde) sources include wood and tobacco
smoke, dark wines and liquors, fruits and vegetables heated in
sealed metal and glass containers, and aspartame, as well as a
variety of products ranging from medicines to new carpet, drapes,
and furniture to mobile homes.

People vary enormously in individual vulnerability.

Google "While Science Sleeps" to reach his website, where you
can download for free his 1984 and 2010 reviews, and the final
chapter 12 re birth defects and autism type diseases.

1. Monte WC. Aspartame; Methanol and the Public Health.
Journal of Applied Nutrition 1984;36(1):42-58. 16 pages

586. Monte W. Methanol: A chemical Trojan horse as the root of
the inscrutable U.
Med Hypotheses 2010;74(3):493-6. 4 pages.

Download free Chapter 12 of the book "While Science Sleeps", re
methanol, formaldehyde, birth defects, autism type diseases, with
100 mainstream full text research paper references -- 25 pages.

Then, search Google for other research and news:

Amid health fears, Diet Coke sweetener [aspartame] in safety
spotlight, Sean Poulter, UK Daily Mail 2011.05.27, 141 comments:
Rich Murray 2011.05.30

Pass the good words, friends !

http://www.whilesciencesleeps.com/references/

http://www.whilesciencesleeps.com/While%20Science%20Sleeps%20-%20Chapter%2012%20(ref).pdf



Rich Murray, pragmatic skeptic

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Mary Yugo <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here is a perfect example of his tangential response style:
>
> "Q:   I understand that you have been negotiating with Home Depot? Have they
> seen the Ecat yet? Has it been tested for them?
>
> A:  We are in discussion with many possible distributors. We will give
> precise information when any deal will have been made."
>
> WRONG!   Proper answers would have been for the first item, a YES or NO.
> For the second and third item, the same.  Either they have seen it or they
> have not and which it is should not be a trade secret.  Same for testing.
> The reason Rossi doesn't answer it properly, in my opinion, is because it
> can be checked.  Same with the third item.  Rossi gives deceptive, self
> serving, evasive answers to almost all questions whose answers can be
> checked.  Same with Defkalion.
>
> Is Rossi's tangentiality and non-response because of his fear of
> competition?  Can't be -- if it were, he would not have spoken of a supposed
> deal with Home Depot at all.  Why mention it if you won't answer harmless
> straightforward questions about it?  Guess what sort of person responds that
> way?
>
> And then there's this:
>
> "Dear Cornè:
> 1- The physics concerning the reactions within the E-Cats are well known (
> we just do not publish them for confidentiality issues) and there are
> patents pending for those, while the certifications are in course."
>
> Patents pending are public information.  Which patents?  Where?  Same with
> certifications.  Which agencies?  With whom can one check?  When will the
> result be available?   As usual, most of what Rossi claims can not be
> verified, is self serving, and not credible.
>
> "We made thousands-hours tests without any radiations emitted from the
> reactors to the environment outside the reactors. This is very easy to be
> measured anyway."
>
> OK, so then there's no radiation so all the arguments about how his secret
> would be revealed by public tests because the radiation spectrum would be
> analyzed are silly.   And on it goes.  The new E-cat isn't like the old
> one.  It's both a heater and an air conditioner cooler.    Nothing but
> silliness and more silliness.
>
> Quotes are from here:  http://www.rossilivecat.com/
>
>
>
>

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