-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] > No positron - no H+H fusion. It is almost that simple.
You appear to be neglecting H-H fusion by electron capture. This also happens in the Sun, but at a low rate. Hi Robin, If the EC reaction happens in the sun (at a low rate), given the high temperature of the sun, intense gamma radiation, and the massive gravity well... ... then why would anyone think that this route could be a significant contribution to gain in a cold environment, when all of the conditions for nuclear fusion or weak-force reactions are orders of magnitude less conducive to it? Realistically, in terms of known probabilities - one might be better off invoking proton decay than either W&L or H-H fusion, or even Ni-H -> Cu. I do not understand why so many vorticians seem so desirous to find a nuclear reaction here as the main source of excess heat, when good testing shows no gammas (not just low, but none) and the Swedes found no radioactive transmutation in the ash, and Rossi has proven to dishonest over and over again (his supposed belief in Ni transmutation is worthless). Plus no deuterium or neutrons are seen. It must be a holdover from years of following Pd-D - where there is ample transmutation, ample helium or tritium and moderate gammas. Were it not for our shared background in Pd-D, then it would be absurd to suggest any type of nuclear reaction is happening, based on the weight of evidence in the record. Yes, I do appreciate that Robin's angle (usually) is that Mills' shrinkage to a maximal state obviates many of the problems with EC. There is no huge problem with that, other than Mills' reputation. But if one tries to conflate the Mills modality with the known type of EC, thus to avoid the negativity of Mills to the fizzix mainstream, then if makes little sense to me- how that can help. At the risk of becoming overly repetitious, at a time where repetition is not in favor here, the preponderance of evidence points Ni-H being a different beast than Pd-D, predominantly non-fusion, non-weak-force. The best evidence, going back to the early nineties (Thermacore) points to substantial thermal gain with few gammas, no neutrons, no neutron activation, no deuterium, tritium or helium ash, and very little 'real' transmutation. The copper and iron seen is easily explainable as electro-migration, a common phenomenon, since it is found in the natural isotopic ratios. Jones
