I would like to thank DGT for allowing me to view this particular video.  I 
have worked within product development labs in the past and feel that the one 
seen in the video is not unlike many of those.  The equipment that is required 
depends upon what they are testing or upon whether or not they are trying out a 
new idea.  We do not know exactly what procedures are being conducted so I 
think it is premature to assume the worst.

It was not very long ago when some of our major skeptics were suggesting that 
even this level of display was not available.   It was suggested that DGT was 
effectively a shell company and that no product exists.  This video clearly 
proves that they were wrong.

So let's give DGT a chance to reveal more of their product information before 
we shoot the messenger.  What they have shown is an important first start of 
much to come.  I prefer to be an optimist that sees the glass half full of 
water instead of one who sees it half empty.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Defkalion video of internal testing


Despite the shortcomings of the experimental setup, I would have thought 
t should be possible to use dataplots such as these to characterise the 
hermal characteristics of the a dummy hyperion system providing we know 
he power input.   This should give usable figures for heat capacities 
nd thermal couplings.
This could then be used to give an indication of the excess heat from 
he 'real' reactor, and it should then be possible to give a good 
stimation of the error range of any results obtained this way.   I seem 
o remember that Mary Yugo(?) got someone to do something along these 
ines with a previous set of data.
Some of the uncertainty would be removed if the two runs were done with 
he same reactor, first with the Ni/H in the reactor, and then second 
ith a dummy powder with approximately the same thermal capacity.  The 
lectrical heat input in the second run should mirror the heat input 
hat was used for the first run.
If we there are two reactors, then doing a real test on both and then a 
ummy test on both would be even better as it might allow additional 
uantification of the errors.
Nigel
On 30/01/2012 15:01, Jones Beene wrote:
 What is curious is the chart on the laptop. Blow it up. Of course, we do not
 know what it purports to show, but the two spikes are indicative of what
 have been known to appear in many early H2 fractional hydrogen experiments
 in the past.

 Jones



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