Is it possible that they refer to the free H2 gas molecules that are not inside the Ni initially? First, these molecules must have their bonds broken, then the individual H atoms can enter the Ni metal. After the reaction is completed the H atoms might leave the Ni and again form H2 molecules releasing a lot of energy. Is this similar to the process that occurs with high temperature H welding? If you start with bonded H atoms and end with them, no net energy is released or absorbed in this cycle.
The Cooper pair process would be different overall I suspect. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 12:36 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Excess heat due to proton pairing in metal hydrides? they seems to talk of a differente circle, more powerful : the chemical (covalent link) cycle : H2-> H H -> H2 what the paper talk about is more a Cooper link 2012/2/9 Nigel Dyer <[email protected]> Julian's Cooper pair proposal could result in a cooling after death. If we assume that the reactor is cooling anyway, and that as a result protons are moving out of the Nickel lattice, which would require/result in the breaking of the cooper pairs which would take, rather than release energy, which is the energy that was originally released when the pairs formed. This would serve to make calorimetry more difficult, but Defkalion are right IMHO that any such endothermic-exothermic circle has no effect on the COP, although I am not convinced that 'chemical' would be the best description of this particular circle. Nigel On 08/02/2012 21:20, Alain Sepeda wrote: in their answer on "Triggering" method, http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5983#p5983 Defkalion have talk about a well know "Heat after death" that is purely chemical There is a predictable very limited "heat after death" phenomenon following every long- period stop of a reactor/reaction. This is a well known and well documented phenomenon related with the H2-> H1-> H2 circle (chemical, non LENR energy), which is monitored by sensors and the Hyperion safety/control electronics/software. The contribution of such endothermic-exothermic circle to the COP of the total process is almost zero. 2012/2/8 Nigel Dyer<[email protected]> He suggests that the pairing energy level is of the order of 1eV, which is a chemical reaction sort of energy.
