The big issue here is the catalysts and special preparation of the nickel 
powders (enrichment with certain isotopes). If they are using his catalyst or 
developed a catalyst of their own by examining the catalysts of the E-Cat when 
they were not supposed to do so, I think that is unethical. Also, he claims 
that his enrichment methods are proprietary.

Even if they avoided making a copy by having access to his catalyst when they 
were not allowed to do so, they are still in the wrong.

The way I see it, if they ever gained access to Rossi's IP without permission 
and used it in the development of their technology, their technology is not 
original. The only way for their technology to be one hundred percent original 
is if they never gained any information about the E-Cat without permission, or 
if they did, used engineers to develop the Hyperion that were never given 
access to that information.


In addition, Andrea Rossi has stated that he regularly produces 1600C inside 
the reactor cores. The units that he is building for home use and in one 
megawatt plants will probably have lower internal temperatures, for stability. 
The ECat can produce high temperatures, but the problem is at high temperatures 
the system can go unstable, and melt the nickel powder.

They may or may not be ahead of Rossi. They have not allowed a single test so 
far. It is possible they are ahead of the ECat, but we need test data to find 
out.



________________________________
 From: Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>
To: noone noone <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time
 

from the data they give :
the H2 pressure is higher (50bars)
no radiofrequency
capacity to work much above 400C (600C,900C)
many catalyst tested
much better control (by pulse modulation), perfect stability.

it seems that they simply reinvent it from the asic Ni+H idea, probably using 
public data,
and maybe sobt hint from what they see, to avoid copying or where to look at...

if they are serious they use what they know about e-cat not to copy it.

clearly they are much ahead, even compare to new rossi data...



2012/2/24 noone noone <[email protected]>

But whose technology are they going to be testing?
>
>Possibility #1 -- Their own tech they developed from scratch. (THIS WOULD BE 
>WORTH CELEBRATING!)
>
>Possibility #2 -- A copy cat of Rossi's technology, using his intellectual 
>property without permission. (This would be a horrible tragedy.)
>
>Possibility #3 -- Their own technology derived from information gathered about 
>the E-Cat they were not supposed to have, that may have been acquired without 
>Rossi's permission. (This would still be a horrible tragedy.)
>
>If number one is the case, I will be eager to find out the results of the 
>testing. I will also celebrate if the results are positive.
>
>If number two or three is the case, I hope that Rossi is prepared to defend 
>his intellectual property.
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Jarold McWilliams <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:34 PM
>Subject: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time
> 
>
>I thought I'd bring the discussion back on topic a little bit.  Not too long 
>before the testing starts.  It is now the day of the test and if the Hyperion 
>performs as claimed, it is the moment society has needed for a long time.  We 
>probably won't get very good results at least for a few days, but hopefully we 
>get positive news very soon.  
>
>
>

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