These battery pulsing/shuttling devices have been around since the Ed Grey motor. Whatever it is, it gets rediscovered and rediscovered.
I personally think that Ed Shoulders Charge Clusters explain both LENR and these devices. If have ever read his main patents, you are witness to a huge amount of careful and extensive experimentation. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory? Summary : could be an LENR effect -- Lead+H or Tin+H -- Tin HAS been a component of some positive experiments. > From: "Robert Leguillon" <robert.leguil...@hotmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:32:32 AM > Subject: RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report > What I witnessed, along with three other scientists that I brought > along -- all more qualified than myself -- was a 5 kW unit powered by > four batteries, running for three hours continuous, driving a load of > approximately 4 KW. According to the amp-hour rating of those > batteries (102 Ah each), without being recharged from an external > source, they should have lasted only 35 minutes before running down > completely, no longer able to power the system. > The load was roughly 4 kW, comprised of: > > - a two-burner stove, each burner consuming 1 kW (rated power > according to manufacturer) > - a toaster that consumed 850 Watts (rated power) > - a pancake maker that consumes 1 kW (rated power) > - A 40-Watt fan (rated power) > http://pesn.com/2012/02/22/9602042_South_African_Fuel-Free_Generator_P > reparing_for_Market/ Except for the fan, these are all resistive loads, and hard to fool. Note in the report that for the larger units they had an industrial resistor bank at hand as a load. AND http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg63222.html … but as we have mentioned here on vortex many times, if this battery shuttling technique, using back EMF, does work – and there is no firm proof that it does but lots of positive anecdotal evidence, then the reason it works is probably related to some from of LENR in the battery itself ! IOW - the battery, which is an electrochemical cell, not unlike the ones used in P&F and most of LENR, is the active source of power. Lead-acid batteries seem to be particularly adaptable to the technique. NB: the sum of the first three electrons in the valence shell of the atom of Pb, has net ionization potential of 54.4 eV, which is the prime Rydberg value for the T-effect (Thermacore effect) which is seen in experiments going back to 1990, first patented by Thermacore. Jones - - - - - - - - - - Lets presume for the moment that the output is real. The effect occurs only in lead-acid batteries, during the discharge phase, at a time when the negative plate is mostly lead. (During this phase the other battery is recharged -- their roles are switched periodically) Discharge <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery#Discharge> Negative plate reaction: Pb(s) + HSO− 4(aq) → PbSO4(s) + H+(aq) + 2e− Positive plate reaction: PbO2(s) + HSO− 4(aq) + 3H+(aq) + 2e− → PbSO4(s) + 2H2O(l) So hydrogen is intimately involved with both plates. This may be analogous to the classical LENR "loading" requirement. Secondly, a high-frequency FUTZ is applied to the discharging battery. Again, note the similarity to the various "triggers" required for LENR -- particularly voltage pulses. So at least TWO of the required LENR conditions are satisfied. So ... what are the candidate metals? a) Lead -- but I can't find any reports of Lead in LENR (except in the solder on the terminals). But if we look at : Plates <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery#Plates> Practical cells are usually not made with pure lead but have small amounts of antimony, tin, calcium or selenium alloyed in the plate material to add strength and simplify manufacture. b) Tin -- NOW we start to get some hits: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MenloveHOreproducib.pdf REPRODUCIBLE NEUTRON EMISSION MEASUREMENTS FROM Ti METAL IN PRESSURIZED D2 GAS H. O. Menlove, ... Los Alamos National Laboratory, Jones Brigham Young University During the past year, we have measured neutron emission from samples of titanium (Ti) metal and sponge in pressurized D2 gas. .... By measuring high-mass samples (300 g Ti) over several weeks, with many liquid nitrogen temperature cycles, we have detected neutron emission above the background from most of the samples with a significance level of 3 to 9 sigma ALL of the active samples contain some Ti662 (Ti, 6% Al, 6%V, and 2% Sn) Also see Geo-fusion and Cold Nucleosynthesis <www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/JonesSEgeofusiona.pdf> NEW PHYSICAL EFFECTS IN METAL DEUTERIDES <http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Hagelsteinnewphysica.pdf> Tin has also been mentioned as a possible surface contaminant on Pd. c) antimony calcium or selenium (I haven't searched these yet)
