I wish you well in your experimentation.  It is not clear to me that radiation 
can be depended upon as a clear proof that useful levels of power are being 
generated by an LENR source.  Others may disagree but the most successful 
devices that have been put forward appear to emit a minor amount of radiation.

On the other hand, it might be in your best interest to monitor neutron and 
gamma ray emission levels emanating from your experiment for your safety.  You 
might try some variation of an experiment that emits lethal levels of these 
which you would not detect in time.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Hao <[email protected]>
To: Vortex <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:22 am
Subject: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate


Hey Vortex Gang, 
 
My primary question motivating this post/query is to get a consensus on whether 
the presence of radiation is a necessary prerequisite for LENR/Cold Fusion 
Effects.  IOW, is radiation ALWAYS present when an LENR/Cold Fusion effect 
occurs.
 
On one hand, there appears to be copious evidence that radiation of some form 
or another is present during an LENR process.  On the other hand, many people, 
including many here in Vortex appears to brush aside the evidence of radiation 
as circumstantial and unverified.  What is the consensus?  Is Radiation always 
present?  Is Radiation a foolproof indication of an LENR process?
 
This question is prompted after mulling over what Axil suggested to me a few 
post back.  In his suggestion to my experimental protocols, he suggested I 
consider integrating a Cloud Chamber into my experiments.   Well, after 
thinking about it for a while and trying to come up with a suitable way of 
integrating a "HOT" reactor inside a "COLD" cloud chamber; I have come to the 
conclusion that it might be beyond my technical and financial ability to do so. 
 So, instead, I have come up with the second best thing.   I have been thinking 
of integrating my reactor, not into a Cloud Chamber, but rather into an Ion 
Chamber design.  Integrating a hot reactor into an Ion chamber appears to be 
straightforward and simple.  
 
So, instead of using flow calorimetry to detect excess heat in an LENR process, 
I will be using the Ion chamber to detect radiation.  As far as I know, there 
is no known chemical process that releases radiation, if the reactants start 
from non-radioactive elements.  So, if I detect radiation, high enough to be 
detectable in a DIY Ion chamber, then that excess radiation must be way above 
ambient, which means that there is only one possible conclusion - that my 
reactor inside the Ion chamber is releasing radiation.  And since  the reactor 
walls would be thick(er), most of the detected radiation would not be Alphas 
and Betas, but rather higher energy gammas.  And if I am detecting copious 
gammas, then an LENR reaction must be the source.  I'm thinking this might be a 
more straightforward way of detecting LENR reactions, rather than Heat 
calorimetry.
 
What do you guys?  Is this a good way to hunt for the LENR/Rossi process and 
catalysts?
 
 

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