Jones and Axil, Thanks mucho.

Your last two post has been most insightful.  I now know that I need to heat 
the central core of the reactor instead of the sides.  I will modify my design 
again.

Jones, I will try the HV Ballast as my RF source.  I will make sure I am 
protected from any explosions.  I have replace an ordinary pressure gauge with 
a pressure transducer so that I can monitor the experiment from a distance on a 
Data Logging software.  The entire contraption will be located inside an 8" 
Concrete Blast Chamber.  I suspect a stick of dynamite will be contained by my 
blast chamber.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:To RF or Not to RF


  The physics term for what Rossi is doing with his hydrogen envelope is a “non 
ideal plasma”. The way that this stuff is created is to heat a gas; in this 
case hydrogen until a plasma is produced, then let the ions cools just enough 
to recombined with electrons to form atoms in a highly excited state.



  This is why Rossi and DGT use short bursts of heat produced by a central 
internal heater lasting a second or two to ionize a small central volume in the 
hydrogen envelop. 





  This produces a small volume of ions of hydrogen and an additive element like 
potassium or lithium or cesium, and element with one valence electron.



  When the heat is turned off, the ionized vapor of this secret sauce catalyst 
will condense by reabsorbing a valence electron through cooling. This cooling 
pushes the ion into a highly polarized Rydberg state. 



  IMHO, it is these various Rydberg species that underpins the Rossi reaction.



  Rossi only uses the RF to maintain a controlled steady state condition in the 
hydrogen non ideal plasma when he is running in self-sustain mode. The RF 
probably is a depressant to scramble the polarization in the plasma to keep the 
reaction from running away by overheating into a burn up state. 



  IOW, the RF may just be a wet blanket to keep things under control.










  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hey Vortex Gang,

    Once again, I am in need of the collective intelligence of this collective 
to solve a problem.

    My question pertains to the use of RF in Rossi or DGT systems.  Is RF a 
required component for these LENR systems.  

    The opinion appears to be varied.  On one hand, there is Rossi and 
CHAN/PHEN who claim RF is required; both of whom I consider dubious sources as 
far as this topic is concerned.  It seems only Rossi and Chan/Phen know for 
sure if RF is being used; and I am not sure both of these entities are being 
truthful.  Some people like Piantelli and Focardi seems to use RF for 
initiation of the process only.  Many are of this persuasion.  If I recall 
correctly, DGT does not seem to use RF.

    So Vortex gang, what is the consensus?  Is RF required?

    If it is required, how does one deliver such a signal into the reactants?


    I have been mulling over the second problem of delivery and I am 
speculating that a coil of magnet wire around the reactor might work.  To that 
end, I am designing a coil onto my reactor.  But I can't seem to find an off 
the shelf component to drive the RF signal itself with enough power.  It seems 
to me that the best way to do this is to simply use a broad-spectrum RF signal 
since we do not know exactly what frequency will initiate the phenomenom.  
Delivering a signal that contains all frequencies might work since one of those 
signal is bound to be the signal frequency that's required.  Essentially a 
noise generator for the entire frequency range.

    Is such a signal generator possible?


    Does anyone know how such a device can be built?  Remember we are not 
overly concerned with the signal itself, just the frequency and the power.  In 
fact, an irregular signal would probably work better because of the varied 
harmonics present.




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