At 04:27 PM 3/29/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:


I don't consider that fully established yet. If McKubre replicates, darn tootin' it's real. He doesn't mess around.


Yup.

I believe in the first phase he is going to measure the reaction in their equipment, rather than replicate from scratch. It amounts to the same thing.

No, not the same thing. But a step.

(Replication "from scratch" isn't necessary, at first. A certain level of replication can use special materials or equipment provided by the original researcher, as long as the replicator can thoroughly inspect them -- normally. Short of that, observing the equipment functioning at the inventor's site is a reasonable precursor to more independent study. Nothing wrong with Kullander and Essen looking at Rossi's setup, but they were phenomenally naive. When Rossi bailed from all agreements to allow more independent replication, that's when the alarms got really loud.)


In any case, if there is a working model, that clearly demonstrates what is being patented, any patent office objection can be overcome.


I agree. That has not been done in recent decades as far as I know, but there are precedents for that.


Sure, Park has been there, behind the scenes, pulling strings, getting anyone who disagrees fired, etc. But that will end, it can't be sustained.


Park and others are still out there causing trouble. They are able to do this because the experimental devices have been so weak and unpredictable. If several credible organizations publish descriptions of robust devices made by Defkalion, Rossi or Brillouin Energy, this opposition will vanish overnight. I have long felt that the opposition to cold fusion is 1000 miles wide and 1 inch deep.

When you see things such as the recent $5 million donation to the University of Missouri on the lectures at CERN you know the tide is turning.

I have the impression that Park, the Amazing Randi, the nitwit journalists, and other prominent opponents are being honest about their motivation and the reasons they oppose cold fusion. They sincerely believe that all researchers are frauds or lunatics. I doubt they are part of a fossil fuel conspiracy or anything like that. I could be wrong.

I don't think so. If I were CEO of a fossil fuel company, I'd want to get my hands on LENR ASAP. Not to suppress it, but to make it the future of my business, the energy business. I'd want to save the oil for chemistry. Plastics, etc.

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