If we decide to get rid of nuclear and coal in favor of wind and solar, a 
millions of  people will die of starvation. Our GDP would decrease by half.  
I'd rather take a "risk" that a nuclear reactor explodes or a coal mine 
collapses than the alternative.   
On Apr 2, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

> Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Putting aside the long term perspective, .. .
> 
>  
> You can’t dismiss the long term perspective.
> 
> No, you can't, but I just did. My sentence begins "putting aside the long 
> term perspective" meaning "let's not talk about the future for a moment here; 
> let's look only at the present."
> 
>  
> What happens in the future is important.
> 
> Yes, it is. What happens in the present is also important. An accident that 
> bankrupts the biggest power company on earth and costs the Japanese taxpayers 
> several hundred billion dollars is important.
> 
> 
> Your value system is completely opposite to what it should be on this issue; 
> let me explain.
> 
> You don't need to. I made it quite clear that I agree that coal is a bigger 
> threat in the long term. However, nuclear power is a gigantic economic threat 
> in the short term. If 3 more Japanese reactors were to go out of control and 
> explode, it would paralyze the entire economy, which is of the third largest 
> in the world. It would be roughly the equivalent of the U.S. fighting the 
> Iraq war again, 5 times in a row.
> 
> Coal threatens global warming which in the worst scenario will destroy entire 
> nations and kill millions of species and individual people. That's horrible. 
> But a disaster that would impoverish an entire nation -- 4 reactors exploding 
> -- is also horrible, albeit in a different way. Neither risk is acceptable. 
> Both coal and nuclear have to go.
> 
> We need something better. I hope that cold fusion can overcome the academic 
> politics and replace them both, but if that is not to be, I am sure that 
> solar and various other methods can replace them. This will be more expensive 
> than coal per kilowatt hour (ignoring future costs). It will be far cheaper 
> than nuclear however, now that we have seen the true dollar cost of nuclear 
> power. After Fukushima it became the most expensive method of generating 
> electricity in history. I believe it wiped out all of the profits ever made 
> by TEPCO.
> 
> Before Fukushima I supported nuclear power.  I knew that nuclear accidents 
> have occurred and that they might be severe. However, I never imagined that a 
> reactor manufactured in the US and installed in Japan could malfunction to 
> this extent and cost this much money. If you asked me before 2011 I would 
> have said: "that that might happen in theory but in actual practice we should 
> not worry about such extreme scenarios." Before 9/11 I would have dismissed 
> the likelihood of fanatics crashing commercial airliners into buildings. Life 
> is full of surprises.
> 
> - Jed
> 

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