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Von: Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 19:03 Samstag, 21.April 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Which is Better: Dishwasher or Washing Dishes by Hand?
>Interesting,
but can we learn to live with fewer dishes?
>Harry
Ofcourse we could.
I think it was Henry David Thoreau, who who carved a wooden bowl and had a
single
spoon for his whole conscious life, and ate what he planted harvested from his
soil.
But anyway, here you have the status 'thing', which spoils the issue.
Thorstein Veblen, the last
real world economist, was thinking about in his 'theory of the
leisure class'.
Dishwashers and the variety of dishes we use, are mere social constructs, bare
of any basic need.
See Abraham Maslov or Peter Corning on the concept of basic needs, and the
hierarchy of needs.
(Peter Corning is more sophisticated)
All 'higher' needs are social constructs.
If You are inclined to do, You can strip them down to the basics, which every
-ahem- sentient human being should consider.
I'm not a primitivist, but I see the point of the primitivists.
If you are a cornucopian transhumanist -which I suppose You are NOT, because
You wold'nt have asked the question in the first place, this is nothing to
ponder.
Buy a LENR heater and continue with BAU.
Which is mostly nonsensical, as far as I can see.
Abundant energy -LENR-type, throws us back to some fundamental questions, which
are unanswered.
Note: I'm aware that this is not 'politically correct' within the vortex
community.
But I am here and think that way.
Frugality is a virtue, which I will not give up, even if LENR delivers
abundance.
To argue towards frugality in the face of abundance is a difficult question.
But comes time, comes argument.
Guenter
