Did you utilize a high pressure hydrogen envelope? Did you test for
transmutation? I doubt that an air envelope will give positive results in
terms of anomalous energy production. But that is just a guess.




On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Several years ago I tried Titanium Oxide Nano powder.  I got a free sample
> in a jar, I forget from where.  I sent sparks through the powder it at near
> vacuum to a pressure of one atm.  I only got smelly dust.
>  No anomalous energy.
>
>  Frank Z
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecat builder <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 11:25 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nano dust fusion
>
>  Jojo,
>
> It seems like one should do the trick--DGT seemed to be just jolting their
> experiment to get an increased output--perhaps just to disassociate the H2.
> But.. One big missing data point is from you: what have you tried, what has
> worked, and what hasn't. I think once we get a reproducible NiH LENR
> project that produces something real, fine tuning it with another spark
> plug, voltage, pressure, heating element, etc. would be much easier.
> But I think one spark plug should be effective.. as it sure looked like
> DGT was just sparking their reactor very briefly to get it to heat up.
>
>
> There is an interesting thread on dust fusion on Talk-Polywell:
>
> http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3531&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
> Seems to me an easy way to replicate the transmutation of elements using
> low power.
> It includes links to video, replication attempts, and some good discussion
> and speculation.
> My video of me nearly blowing up my microwave is posted there.
>
> - Brad
>
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > After reading the entire paper front to back, I am overwhelmed by the
> > complexity of his experimental setup.  Seems too complex and finnicky to
> be
> > scalable for commericial applications.
> >
> > Although looking at his setup reminds me of DGT cylindrical reactor.
> > Specifically, it reminds me of the 2 spark plugs on both ends.  I have
> been
> > pondering a lot on how DGT might be using the 2 spark plugs.  It seems
> to me
> > that 2 spark plug arranged in that fashion would be insufficient to
> ionize a
> > substantial amount of carbon nanopowders (Assuming DGT uses nanocarbon
> like
> > Egely.)  I am also at a lost in understanding how it can help create some
> > mixing.
> >
> > I wonder if DGT is using the spark plugs to cause oscillations within the
> > chamber like I first originally speculated although it seems to me that
> the
> > power levels imparted by the spark plugs would be too small for such a
> task,
> > the reactor chamber being huge.  In my spark reactor, my volumes are
> small
> > and I take advantage of thermosiphon so I can concieve of a way to create
> > turbulence with a single spark plug.
> >
> > What are your thought on my comments above?  Am I correct in assuming
> that
> > turbulence inside the reactor is important?  It seems that Egely is going
> > for oscillations rather than turbulence.
> >
> > How does one create carbon nanopowder plasma on such a large reactor
> chamber
> > volume like DGT's reactor?  It appears to me that 2 spark plugs are too
> > small for the task.
> >
> > Any thoughts you may have is appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jojo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Axil Axil
> > To: vortex-l
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:37 AM
> > Subject: [Vo]:Nano dust fusion
> >
> > Nano dust fusion
> >
> >
> http://greentechinfo.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/George_Egely_-_Nano_Dust_Fusion_v7.pdf
> >
> > Dr. George Egely has developed a form of LENR that is uncommon but may
> not
> > be too far off the mark.
> >
> > His process is an unusual one. The essential ingredients are dusty plasma
> > made from nano‐size carbon particles and air and some water vapor. In its
> > simplest version the process works at atmospheric pressure, and at modest
> > temperatures at 1000 – 3000 º C.
> >
> > I would like to offer some suggestions for improvement that are inspired
> by
> > the work of Rossi, DGT, and Chan et al.
> >
> > First, lose those hollow quarts balls and the microwave in preference to
> a
> > spark plug. The plug is more robust and reliable. It will pump many more
> > electrons into the plasma due to its high operational voltage then will a
> > microwave.
> >
> > Second, add zirconium carbide nano-powder to the dust; the use of this
> metal
> > will provide more charge concentration potential to the plasma. The use
> of
> > zirconium carbide with a work function of 3.38  and a very high melting
> > temperature of 3532 °C will thermalize the gamma radiation associated
> with
> > the nuclear reactions of LENR by using a coherent proton surface charge.
> >
> > I love carbide of a transition metals because of their high melting
> > temperature and their compatibity with carbon powder. Together with
> carbon,
> > a very hot plasma temperature will increase operational reactor hydrogen
> > envelope temperatures to the highest turbo generation efficiencies
> possible.
> >
> > Third, replace the air with a high pressure hydrogen envelope with the
> > highest pressure possible.
> >
> > Some of my reactions to important parts of Dr. George Egely narrative:
> >
> > On page 6:
> >
> > My theory of cold fusion centers on charge concentration as the primary
> > mechanism for shilding the coulumb barrier.
> >
> > In support of this concept from Dr, Egely’s text as follows:
> >
> > Here the more or less familiar rules of quantum mechanics or Q.E.D.
> rule. In
> > our opinion, strong interaction and “classical” fusion start to dominate
> the
> > process above a certain power density in the middle layer. Sparking is
> > visible on slow motion films. Obviously, the amplitude of oscillation
> also
> > depends on the plasma radius, pressure, and temperature. At the center of
> > the plasma, the amplitudes should be much higher than those at the outer
> > wall of the acoustic resonator. (There can be the highest amplitude of a
> > spherical standing wave). See Fig. 5 for the three layers.
> >
> > Near the center of the plasma sphere (middle layer), charge shielding can
> > dominate nuclear processes due to the enormous surface charge density of
> the
> > dust. Then repulsing charges of like protons can be overcome by the huge
> > negative charge density of the carbon particles.
> >
> > On the slow motion video records, one can clearly see the appearance of
> > sudden small sparks en mass. Then the Geiger counter starts to click,
> though
> > at moderate levels. At present no one knows what goes on in the center of
> > the acoustic resonator.
> >
> > In Fig. 6 these simultaneous mechanisms are shown as field amplification
> by
> > resonant surface polaritons (Fig. 6/a), direct volumetric polarization by
> > electron and ion impact (Fig. 6/b), and charge shielding (Fig. 6/c) is
> > shown, where strong interaction rules (again at a different size level)
> at
> > the characteristic size of a nucleon. Obviously these are all
> hypothetical
> > mechanisms, as they cannot be observed directly.
> >
> > On page 23 (b)
> >
> > At higher input energy, the sparking region appears, along a mild degree
> of
> > radiation – both x rays and particles. (There is a slight radioactivity
> in
> > the exhausted dust and the quartz sphere after the power is switched off,
> > for a couple of days).
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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