I was actually thinking of some other exotic form of communications instead of 
our current EM type.  People had no way to detect radio waves with normal 
senses until they were mathematically uncovered by the scientists of the day.  
No one would have believed it was possible until it was actually done; sound 
familiar?  Now, one might ask the question as to whether or not there are 
additional energies or forces waiting to be discovered as knowledge is 
improved.  I fall into the category of one of those curious people that have a 
strong suspicion that we have more to learn in physics than we currently know.  
Imagine that a new method of communicating is discovered which relies upon one 
of these unknown techniques and that it can travel great distances at super 
light speeds.  The aliens, and hopefully us, will sooner or later stumble upon 
the new method and radio is history.  Further, they might conclude that finding 
this form of communications is the simplest test of intelligence which would 
warrant further contact.

One might look upon entanglement of particles as a possible instantaneous 
method of sending information according to what I have seen.  Would this system 
work over a distance of many light years?  This is just one possibility out of 
who knows how many.  We limit ourselves to the speed of light which is far to 
slow if it is truly possible to travel between the stars.  If UFOs are indeed 
alien craft from far away then there must be another way to exceed this barrier.

Most wondrous discoveries are a result of good fortune (luck) where an 
observant person notices things that do not quite add up or operate outside of 
the understood physics principles.  Have you ever wondered why we virtually 
always find new and unique science as soon as an instrument is put into 
operation that looks deeper into nature?  When does this sequence of 
discoveries cease?  My suspicion is that we are babes in the woods with much 
too high of an opinion of ourselves.  And as we all have seen, those who are 
assumed to be the most knowledgeable tend to be the very ones that prevent new 
knowledge from being discovered to conceal the appearance of not knowing.

We must continue to ask questions of natural systems if we are to advance.  
That UFO that someone claims to have seen might actually be real.  The 
apparitions that are reported widely by others could be a clue to some new 
science.  Cold fusion might be prevalent in nature under some very demanding 
and precise conditions that are difficult to achieve.  When it is eventually 
tamed we will look back and say "That is obvious!".

Ok, I will vacate the soap box.  Once in a while it is relaxing to think with 
an open mind toward the future.

Dave  



-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis


On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:10 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:



A thought just occurred to me.  Maybe the fact that we have not discovered 
radio signals from any of these aliens is a strong suggestion that there is an 
alternate superior method of communication that we will discover within the 
next few years, assuming that we progress as others have.  This is all the more 
reason for us to adequately fund new unknown energy sources.
 
Dave




I like that thought.


To further flesh out the idea about the novel form of EM radiation 
communication, imagine a GIF image of the Mona Lisa.  It looks just like any 
other such image, but some of the pixels have a slightly different color.  The 
modification is subtle enough that the human eye won't be able to see the 
difference.  And if the encoding is done very cleverly, even very good computer 
algorithms won't be able to pick it out.  But if you have the public key, you 
can run the image through decompression software and get a message out. The 
encoding scheme could involve the colors in the image as they relate to other 
colors, for example.


Now imagine doing this with radio communication across a spectrum.  The "image" 
in this case is whatever is passing through the transceiver at that moment.  
Since we're using a lot of redundancy in the encoding of the information, we 
can afford to make the modifications to the incoming signal very slight.  You 
might be able to get away with such a scheme with every little power consumed 
in relaying the modified signal -- I'm just guessing here, but perhaps it could 
be more energy efficient to transmit information this way.  And there could be 
different "channels" -- low frequencies together with their harmonics, which 
you could use for things like error correction.  This seems like something that 
might already be possible.  I wonder if militaries already have something like 
it.


The quantum entanglement idea is an interesting one.


Eric




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