Abd ul, I am posting here with my real name, but who knows if that is true? The liar's paradox, which became a serious problem with the net.
Who is who and who is telling the 'truth'? Only personal acquaintance or a serious, consistent dedication to a topic can tell. eg I have now doubt that YOU are a genuine seriously thinking honest person, like Feynman is. Now wrt to me, I try to be seriously questioning person with a funny bend. Often not even knowing myself when what is what. Sometime I wake up in the morning asking myself David Byrne's questions: ... You may find yourself living in a shotgun shack You may find yourself in another part of the world You may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile You may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here? Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground You may ask yourself, how do I work this? You may ask yourself, where is that large automobile? You may tell yourself, this is not my beautiful house You may tell yourself, this is not my beautiful wife Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again, after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was. ... Byrne is a seriosly funny person. And I doubt Rossi qualifies. Interesting in another sense, that Byrne bends time into something circular, which most artists do. Groundhog day. Scientists and all sorts of apocalyptics do NOT. Start-stop. Linear time. Guenter ________________________________ Von: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: 0:16 Sonntag, 15.Juli 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy. Part III I don't know if Guenter Wildgruber is *his* real name, but Mark_-ZeroPoint most certainly is not a real name. But I'll happily apologize if it is. Mark, here, speculates on something, along with SVJ, about Guenter's mail, that makes some crazy assumptions. If you hit a reply to an actual "vortex-l" post, what happens to the reply depends on, not only the list settings, but also your own email program's settings. It has little or nothing to do with the original email. If the mail is echoed through the list, it will have a Reply-to header supplied by the list. If you look at the headers from his mails, they look quite like headers from other mails. However, how do we know that a mail is from the vortex list? If you only rely upon the [Vo] in the header, you could be easily misled. Some people do send mails to both the list and the individual. That could easily be done by the user who originates the mail. A mail that was cc'd to the individual, as well as sent to to the list, if the individual replies to it, will behave exactly as described. I don't see a cc in Guenter's mails to the list, but he might be bcc'ing the private emails of some. That would produce the same effect for those people. Again, people might do this to suppress further cc's being sent, but to notify an individual that a mail has been sent to the list. Embarrassing, messages like this, assuming a "nefarious reason" for something quite ordinary, don't you think? None of this has any bearing on the cogency of the alleged "Rossi conspiracy." As with most Matters Rossi, we don't have enough information to do more than flap the meaning-making machine, which can churn out endless speculations. I think Guenter was just having fun. He seems to have some level of grasp of the situation, more than can be said for many others. At 12:57 PM 7/14/2012, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > SVJ wrote: > “While I’m at it, I think Gunter might turn out to be an agent too - with his > own personal agenda. I base this suspicion of mine on the fact that whenever > I hit the reply button from one of Gunter’s vortex-l posts my replies are > automatically sent to Gunter’s personal email address, not Vortex. I have > come to the disquieting conclusion that this is a deliberate act of sabotage > on Gunter’s part, perhaps to siphon off information from entering the general > public domain. You certainly have to admit the fact that inserting one’s > personal email address in lieu of vortex-l may be due to a highly suspicious > agenda! ;-) > > I think you’re onto something, Steven! > > In another rambling post, Guenter goes on about how adept he is with > technology and wondering whether he should teach his non-techy friends how to > use an iPad, but yet, he can’t even configure his email client to ReplyTo: > the proper vortex-l address… there would only seem to be two possibilities… > 1. His computer skills are what he implies, quite adept, and thus should know > how to properly configure his email client, but doesn’t for some nefarious > reason; or 2. He isn’t what he says he is, in which case, it might excuse his > inability to properly configure his email client, but then he is misleading > readers about his tech-skills/knowledge. > > I think the first is the more likely one… > > -Mark >
