Also of interest is that during the 2000 elections the political symbolism of the colours red and blue switched in the United states. Red used to symobolize left-wing states and values and blue used to symobolize right-wing states and values. Now the converse is true.
Harry On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Robert Lynn <[email protected]> wrote: > Always fascinates me that "liberal" is a pejorative in US when elsewhere in > the world it describes people who champion personal freedom from invasive > rules and laws - which in most peoples eyes is a good thing. Is this a > semantic shift or conflation manufactured by the religious right or was it > always like that in the US? > > I like the idea of countries settling their debts by ceding land to debtors. > Would bring it home to voters and politicians that borrowing money has real > consequences. Northern Europeans would gradually replace Southern Europeans > in the nice climates, (eg Germany gets Crete) Chinese would get Hawaii, > Florida, Texas, and ship off previous inhabitants to North Dakota. A bit > like warfare but without the body-count. > > On 20 July 2012 16:44, Chemical Engineer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Wow, liberals are crawling out of the cracks... Maybe we should give the >> Chinese our land to pay off our debt?? >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Randy Wuller <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Chemical: >>> >>> I wouldn't respond but your point grinds on me like chalk on a >>> blackboard. First, the incentives we as taxpayers give to these >>> technologies through our Government are only a waste if you believe we would >>> be employing the efforts of the citizens of this country at maximum utility >>> without them. That concept is so inane that it makes me want to throw up >>> when I hear it. Pure capitalism doesn't maximize utility and if you think >>> it does, please read a little history. Under either system there will be >>> wasted effort but encouraging technical investigation which may not >>> otherwise occur is not a waste. Some of it may turn out to be fruitless but >>> you would have to measure all the results to determine if a better approach >>> would have been better. So if government wouldn't have provided incentives >>> to the Solar Energy industry do you think more people in this society would >>> have been investigating LENR. I doubt it. We might have a few more >>> casino's though. >>> >>> Finally, there is no debt. Debt is an illusion. This country, if it >>> wanted could pay all the debt now. The net worth of the U.S. is 6 times the >>> level of debt. This isn't about debt, it is all about who takes a shave for >>> the greed which created leverage on assets which were not sufficient to >>> cover the debt. Those that loaned the money don't want to lose so they have >>> been pushing for all of us to pay so their wealth is retained. >>> >>> All the while the country has much unused effort and overall we all lose >>> for no reason other than to protect a few. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Chemical Engineer >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:03 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another Solar Firm Shuts Down >>> >>> Don't you mean frightening for taxpayer's? That is where billion's have >>> come from while the US government goes trillions into debt. If LENR happens >>> to be real your solar "boom" will be a colossal bust! >>> >>> On Friday, July 20, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: >>>> >>>> Here is another article about that, with a few more technical details: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/07/amonix-closes-150-mw-las-vegas-hcpv-plant >>>> >>>> Solar energy is booming but there are too many players and too many >>>> different technologies being developed. A shakeout is inevitable. It is >>>> what >>>> happened with personal computers in the early 1980s, and with automobiles >>>> circa 1910. This is how capitalism works. It is frightening for investors! >>>> >>>> - Jed >>>> >> >
