*Does this mean there are transmutations that change gas composition"*
The Papp engine produced a brown substance. Kettner believes that neon was being transmuted. No transmutation information is released about the Kettner engine. The Papp engine is primitive and is substantively different in detail from the Kettner engine in the same way that a model T is different from a current car model. I believe that the Kettner engine recharge time of 144,000 miles equivalent is a result of transmuted ash buildup in the noble gas. *Has anyone tried reproducing the effect outside of an engine where the **phenomenon can be observed better?* Since no heat is produced, the engine core can be and has been built out of clear plastic. I would like to put the core in a cloud chamber to characterize any particle emissions but the restraining coils keep eveything inside the core. Cheers: Axil On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Axil, > > I am not acquainted with this engine. > > You wrote - > > " After several thousand hours the gases lose structure and their > elasticity." > > Does this mean there are transmutations that change gas composition" > > Has anyone look at the ash (both gas and cylinder walls)? > > Is there dielectric breakdown during ignition with electron cascades? > If so, have RF-emissions been characterized? > > Has anyone tried reproducing the effect outside of an engine where the > phenomenon can be observed better? > > I would be interested in answers to any of these questions > - especially since McKubre believes it's probably a real nuclear effect. > > -- Lou Pagnucco > > Axil^2 wrote: > > *Noble Gas Plasma Engine * > > > > In the 1980s, Joseph Papp was granted US Patent No. 3,670,494 for his > > “Noble Gas Plasma Engine”. > > > > A mixture of recycled inert gases (helium, neon, argon, krypton, and > > xenon) > > fills a piston cylinder These gases are exposed to a high-voltage > > discharge > > in this sealed cylinder capped with a piston. > > > > This spark causes the gases to expand violently though no combustion > > occurs. Mechanical energy is delivered by the piston's displacement. > After > > the spark, the gases immediately collapses to their original volume and > > density, and the cycle is repeated. > > > > > > Replacing these gases cost 15 cents per operating hour . > > > > Papp's first prototype was a simple 90-horsepower Volvo engine with upper > > end modifications. > > > > Attaching the Volvo pistons to pistons fitting the sealed cylinders, the > > engine worked perfectly with an output of three hundred horsepower. The > > inventor claimed it would cost about twenty five dollars to charge each > > cylinder every sixty thousand miles. > > > > Papp had arranged for a demonstration of Volvo engine to representatives > > of > > the Stanford Research Institute. Unfortunately the day before the > > demonstration, the Volvo engine exploded. One person was killed, and > > another person was injured. Papp himself is believed to have died from > > apparent neutron radiation from his engine. > > > > There were indications that such an engine could provide its own > > electrical > > power and being a closed system, require no fuel. It is not by definition > > an electromagnetic engine, however. It is believed that at the heart of > > the > > Papp engine is the development of high-density electrical charge clusters > > which provide the energy to expand the gases. > > > > The Papp technology is now in the public domain, Other US patents are > > 5319336, 4151431, 3670494, 4046167 - Mechanical Accumulator, 3680431 for > > Method and Means for Generating Explosive Forces, and 4,428,193 for Inert > > Gas Fuel, Fuel Preparation Apparatus and System for Extracting Useful > Work > > from the Fuel. > > > > There are several groups working on versions of the Papp engine. It seems > > to keep recycling through the new energy community. > > > > Jim Kettner has incorporated a company called “inteligentry, LTD” to > > simply > > and optimized the Papp process. He will license his prototype for mass > > production shortly uses the Rossi type “try it before you buy it money > > back > > guaranty”. > > > > It looks to me like the Papp engine uses the same basic electron > screening > > LERN principles as the Rossi reactor. In the Papp engine, helium is the > > fuel and Argon is the catalyst. Jim Kettner is very open about his > > technology since most of it is in the public domain. > > > > Kettner's company “inteligentry, LTD,” is selling a demo unit to the > > experimenter types for $350 so that they can verify in their own minds > > that > > gas based LENR works. This LENR engine produced no heat. Its energy > output > > is strictly mechanical energy. A simple spark and frequency generator are > > provide. The gas is user supplied. > > > > If you are interested, see > > > > > http://www.magistrala.cz/freeenergy/2012/07/28/inteligentry-open-sourcing-noble-gas-engine-core-design/ > > > > Public domain LENR > > Fuel mix > > xenon 8.5 > > > > krypton 12.5 > > > > argon 16.9 > > > > neon 26.3 > > > > Helium comprise the remainder. > > This technology shares most of the features that are currently under > > development by other LENR vendors and Focus Fusion. I will discuss these > > similarities in another post. > > Cheers: Axil > > > > >
