Hi Jones, Wouldn't surprise me at all if the Collective contributed, and possibly was onto it first. For the most part, I think the group is made up of people willing to look at ALL the facts, wherever they lead; and also to the fact that having a group of open-minded people means one is more likely to have a better collection of facts from which to sift through.
Most importantly, you state, "There is no beta or gamma radiation happening with the excess energy at all. This is NOT a nuclear reaction." Then is it something completely different than what is going on in LENR? If it isn't nuclear, does that mean it’s a totally new chemical reaction (as ridiculous as that seems), or are we looking at something intermediate (nuclistry!)? Either way, this would seem to be very new physics. Cudos as well, since you were the one who found and brought the Romanowski paper to our attention... -Mark Iverson -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012 Well - vortex may have played a part, behind the scenes, in this work. Why? The first paragraph of Celani's paper mentions the Romanowski paper and the Constantan alloy he is using. As to how that gets back to this us - it was first mentioned about a year ago, see: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg44320.html Ahern had first used the Romanowski paper as a guideline to have this particular alloy made at Ames, which he used in his EPRI work; following which he then sent a sample to Celani, which he used to replicate Brian's result, and now Celani has made it into a wire, which is specially treated and gives even better results than before. Actually the results are almost the same 22 watts seen by Ahern, but now the instrumentation is much better and the wire may weigh less than the powder and the run time is longer. It is probably etched to give nano-porosity. There is no beta or gamma radiation happening with the excess energy at all. This is NOT a nuclear reaction. Jones -----Original Message----- From: Akira Shirakawa Short summary - Celani's demo reactor was turned on for about 6 hours before NIWeek 2012 started, on Saturday - On Sunday the demo reactor was brought to the NIWeek 2012 hall where it got turned on before 12:00 and *still is working*, so for a total of 55 hours as of writing. - The reaction is stable. Peak excess heat power was 22W, currently stabilized at about 14W - Testing performed in front of a wide audience - Celani's testing wire is made as a Cu-Ni-Mn alloy, a good sample which was already previously used 4 times by him at his labs in Frascati (Italy) New paper by Celani et al. attached: http://goo.gl/K1T0M * * * Cu-Ni-Mn alloy wires, with improved sub-micrometric surfaces, used as LENR device by new transparent, dissipation-type, calorimeter Francesco Celani, E. F. Marano, A. Spallone, A. Nuvoli, E. Purchi(, M. Nakamura, B. Ortenzi, S. Pella, E. Righi, G. Trenta, S. Bartalucci, G. L. Zangari, F. Micciulla, S. Bellucci. Abstract -- Starting in February 2011, we studied the feasibility of new Nickel based alloys that are able to absorb proper amounts of Hydrogen (H2) and/or Deuterium (D2) and that have, in principle, some possibility to generate anomalous thermal effects at temperatures >100°C. The interest in Ni comes in part because there is the possibility to use H2 instead of expensive D2. Reports by F. Piantelli (since 1992), G. Miley (about 1995), M. Patterson, F. Celani (since 2010) and, overall, claims by A. Rossi and (later on) by Defkalion Company, could be further investigated. Moreover, cross-comparison of results using Hydrogen instead of Deuterium can be made and could help the understanding of the phenomena involved (nuclear origin?) because use of such isotopes. * * * A meaty update! S.A.
