dear Jones, Pisntelli (and FYI the Defkalion process) does not work with deuterium- not at all. It is rather difficult to determine the transmutation products at the Piantelli process.
DGTG in their process they are using very good analytical techniques but it is difficult to calculate the correlations due to the extreme complexity of the raections. Both transmutaions and nucleosynthesis takes place and both contribute to the heat energy. Peter On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Peter,**** > > ** ** > > Can you cite a Piantelli paper where deuterium was absent, but where the > transmutation products were well-correlated with excess energy?**** > > ** ** > > I think not. This is the same problem that Krivit finds with the lame > correlation of helium to excess energy in Pd-D. I’m not saying that Krivit > is correct on that, but he does make valid points about both the deficiency > and sloppiness of reputed evidence. **** > > ** ** > > QM by itself – should provide measureable transmutation products, > especially if there is deuterium tunneling or Oppenheimer stripping. Helium > is ubiquitous to the extent it should always be seen. No one doubts some of > both is there almost every time it is looked for.**** > > ** ** > > Problem is, the occurrence is miniscule, or either not well measured in > proportionality, and in isotope mix, or is thousands of times too low to > account for the thermal heat. Finding transmutation means nothing by > itself, but measuring the mass of these products, and isotope ratio, mean > everything.**** > > ** ** > > Bottom line – because of quantum mechanics alone the experimenter should > find measurable transmutation and helium almost every time that hydrogen > has been exposed to electric fields over time - but QM alone is responsible > for them and in tiny amounts statistically - and thus the thermal gain > which is seen in the run is most likely unrelated.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Peter Gluck **** > > ** ** > > Dreaded or not dreaded, the process is nuclear. Just take a look to > Piantelli's opuses or to the paradigm changing presentation of John > Hadjichristos today at NI Week.**** > > Fortunately it is mildly and intelligently nuclear.**** > > ** ** > > Peter**** > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Akira Shirakawa <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > On 2012-08-08 20:23, Jones Beene wrote:**** > > Note also that the good Doctor, at 16:53 recommends dropping the names > cold-fusion or LENR in favor of "quantum reactor" ... to me this is tacit > admission that NI has seen no evidence of nuclear reactions which are even > close to commensurate with the excess heat produced.**** > > ** ** > > Or perhaps because "LENR" is not a very good acronym and contains the > dreaded N-word. > > Cheers, > S.A.**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck**** > > Cluj, Romania**** > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com**** > > ** ** > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
