Similiar to Jones suggestion that the mass of a proton is just an
average, perhaps the charge of a proton is just an average, so what
takes place is a momentary reduction of charge instead of charge
screening.

harry




On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
> For 20 years, most cold fusion research was stymied by the traditional
> belief of how fusion was supposed to work. There were a few others who
> recognized that electron screening was lowering the coulomb barrier but
> these workers were in the minority and not influential.
>
> Even E. Storms idea has electron screening as a root cause as a one
> dimensional topological electron charge carrier.
>
> I has assumed that Rossi had changed his technology, be he still uses the
> same approach he started out with so the nanotube idea is original to us
> here at vortex and may in fact work as you suggest.
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> Cheers: Axil
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> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Kelley Trezise <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I am sure P&F had hopes of seeing clear signs of fusion by packing as much
>> hydrogen into a sample of palladium as possible but after their initial
>> success it became apparent to them that the process was dicy, as in a
>> collection of samples, some worked and some did not. It should have been
>> obvious to them immediately that the alloying elements (impurities) and/or
>> the crystal grains and work hardening effects also payed a role in the
>> results. If Storms is correct then palladium may be completely unnecessary
>> as is now obvious from the success with nickel. If it is the micro
>> structural defects that provide the environment for the reaction to take
>> place then any material that provides such a place be it tungsten, iron,
>> cobalt, or what have you will suffice provided the hydrogen can make its way
>> into the site. In the co-deposition of palladium and deuterium, the built up
>> structure probably created the micro structural "defects" in abundance,
>> hence it was not necessary to wait around while the packing of palladium
>> into a bulk sample initiated cracks and created the necessary sites by crack
>> propagation. (That is what hydrogen will do even to palladium) I am assuming
>> here that there is no fusion of nickel with hydrogen but hydrogen to
>> hydrogen, etc. Storms suggested that the reactions take place on the surface
>> of a palladium sample, which is where the strains are highest in the case of
>> a material with an internal pressure created by the loading of deutrium
>> would be highest and as a result would be the place where cracking would be
>> most developed and produce the most reaction sites. If nickel is central to
>> the reaction then it is not necessary to have large quanties of nickel in
>> the reactor just as in the case of no need for large qantities of hydrogen.
>> The nickel could be built into the surface of a spongy mass of ceramic that
>> simply provides a physical support to present the nickel itself in large
>> enough quantites. In which case the temps can be driven even higher.
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