John Rohner mentioned that brown stuff was found in the engine built for Papp. My guess is that this stuff was boron. The other element that is brown is bromine. I would like to know if hydrogen builds up in the noble gas over time. This would mean that protons are a fusion reaction product. Hydrogen ash might make the noble gas lose bounce over a long run time.
We do not know if the Rohner engine has done an endurance test in which nuclear ash might build up. If the energy excess seen in the Papp engine does not come from a fusion product, then something really strange is going on. The anomaly the John Rohner talks about is really troubling. In this anomaly, the noble gas exits the cylinder as heat is produced in an external coil until a vacuum is produced in the cylinder. This coil is wound according to the specs found for the coil in the Papp patent and is not used by Rohner. The gas leak might be caused by teleportation of the gas using through another dimension, but that is to wild to even consider, even here at Vortex. Cheers: Axil On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:56 AM, David L Babcock <[email protected]>wrote: > On 8/11/2012 10:41 AM, Chemical Engineer wrote: > > Let me add to that last statement, "Generating Energy & Matter" > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Chemical Engineer <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I now firmly believe Papp/Rohner, Rossi device, DGT, Brillouin, Celini >> and others are all generating energy by the exact same Nuclear process and >> my prediction of what will come next when the world realizes what this is >> is that ALL HEAVEN AND HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE. >> >> The Papp/Rohner device has the process already somewhat >> optimized/simplified (1500 HP self sustained for months from a 6-cylinder, >> 360CC device, which is PEANUTS for what this device will actually do) and >> Rossi's latest device appears to be using a very similar method to generate >> continuous heat to replace nuclear fuel rods, process heating equipment, >> etc. Throw your nanopowder away. >> >> I really want somebody to slap me to wake me up. My wife is wondering >> why I cannot sleep at night lately. >> >> > I was quite able to sleep at nights until I learned that the LENR bunch > was finding helium at appropriate levels. > > Papp/Rohner seems to be carefully avoiding making any such > investigations. No ashes, therefore NOT nuclear. And so at this point, > not convincing (although very exciting). > > One miracle is enough. LENR can do anything that [maybe!] Papp can, just > a tad more complex and expensive -but still leaving hydrocarbons behind in > the dust. Plenty of reason for more sleepless nights. > > Ol' Bab, who was an engineer... >

